Pheasant Chicken Hybrids

[Evanowski]

This thread was good the way it started.... but heated debate makes it better. Maybe I'm just a sucker for drama. Either way, I'll stick around to see what happens.

Can't wait to see what they look like fully feathered out!

 

[De Wet]

Tony leave this bunch of kids here they want to play here your intelligence are to big for them to understand, which a lot of us have respect for... actually this byc forums are gettin bored on pheasants... every day the same thing and debate with kids with the same thing

 

[Tony K T]

Tony leave this bunch of kids here they want to play here your intelligence are to big for them to understand, which a lot of us have respect for... actually this byc forums are gettin bored on pheasants... every day the same thing and debate with kids with the same thing

Your right I will say no more and help no one on here again.I will read and respond but no more helping people on boards.If you need my opinion please pm me and I will respond with what I know.
Now if I said these words like they have about me I would be banned as I have in the past.My simple position is to try and save pheasants from extinction,but I guess you guys know more then I do about them.
As for hijacking threads I admit I did get involved wrongfully but unintentionally.As this thread, it gets out of hand fast when you are passionate about your hobby and try to defend what you strive for for the birds future.
As you can see in my avatar it says I am a byc educator.I did not apply or ask for this position.I guess the mods felt that my input was valuable.But you guys don't seem to think so.
In N.H.,Tony.

 

[jammyjammy2112]

tony we are only giving our opinion.i don't think that 3 offspring are going to make that big or a difference they proble wont even breed again.There are proble a lot more people out there that you dont no about that had crossed pheasants and chickens.Come back in about 40 years we will see what happins time will only tell.

 

[CochinBrahmaLover]

Both de wet and Tony.... I respect you both. Always have. Anyone willing to pay 200+ on a single bird that requires like 20ft per bird... Well that's someone dedicated to resurrecting a breed.
But you guys have to pick your fights.. And this is not one you should've picked. Think of it this way. Do mules destroy horse breeds? No. Even though some 10% of female mules are fertile, how often do you see:
Mule for sale!
Father was an Arab, Mom a mule (Appaloosa x Belgian)
$2,000

I mean, really?
I highly doubt that cheasents are going to be a marketed breed, they aren't destroying a breed. Like its been said, probably around 90% of cheasents will be infertile. And then, will a chicken be able to breed with ALL pheasants? Some may have odd genes that don't correspond with chickens, thus breeding near impossible.
Is a geep (sheep x goat) destroying goats or sheep? No. (Although breeding near impossible)
You guys can breed the purest of the pure of these rare pheasants.. Anyone willing to put that much into a bird is highly unlikely to breed them with other pheasants or chickens. If so, then your more likely to have to worry about @$$holes selling cross breeds (pheasent cross breeds) as pures then you'll have to worry about cheasents.. While these bird resemble pheasants, the fact that they have chicken shows obviously...
So you guys can talk about being a BYC educator or call us 'kids' because we don't believe a mule is going to destroy an entire species of pheasent.
Is breeding an Ohiki w/ a austrolorp going to destroy the entire breed of chickens? Course not! Label them as backyard crosses then sell them, butcher em, keep em as pets but just because the accident happened your entire gene pool isn't ruined.
Like I said, you have to worry about @$$holes selling known cross breeds as pures then some cheasents who are likely infertile.

 

[Rich386]

So here's the deal, I had a Melanistic Mutant pheasant hen that didn't get along with her own kind, so I placed her in with my Wheaten Ameraucana chicken trio. This Spring she started laying and I wondered if her eggs might be fertile. So I started putting her eggs in my incubator and a few actually developed embryos. Some developed to the point of hatching, but died a few days before they would have hatched. I think this was due to the Hovabator incubator I was using. I bought a Brinsea and was able to hatch 3 of her eggs.



I can post pictures as they grow if anyone is interested in watching their progress.

Count me in this should be interesting. I wonder if they will be able to reproduce?

 

[jammyjammy2112]

well said cochinbrahamalover.

 

[mattperth]

Cochinbrahmalover summed it up perfectly! I think an accidental mating between these species is unlikely to destroy any pheasant lines. Please can we now get back on topic? Namely, updated pics of the little chesants as they grow

 

[Speceider]

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Both de wet and Tony.... I respect you both. Always have. Anyone willing to pay 200+ on a single bird that requires like 20ft per bird... Well that's someone dedicated to resurrecting a breed.
But you guys have to pick your fights.. And this is not one you should've picked. Think of it this way. Do mules destroy horse breeds? No. Even though some 10% of female mules are fertile, how often do you see:
Mule for sale!
Father was an Arab, Mom a mule (Appaloosa x Belgian)
$2,000

I mean, really?
I highly doubt that cheasents are going to be a marketed breed, they aren't destroying a breed. Like its been said, probably around 90% of cheasents will be infertile. And then, will a chicken be able to breed with ALL pheasants? Some may have odd genes that don't correspond with chickens, thus breeding near impossible.
Is a geep (sheep x goat) destroying goats or sheep? No. (Although breeding near impossible)
You guys can breed the purest of the pure of these rare pheasants.. Anyone willing to put that much into a bird is highly unlikely to breed them with other pheasants or chickens. If so, then your more likely to have to worry about @$$holes selling cross breeds (pheasent cross breeds) as pures then you'll have to worry about cheasents.. While these bird resemble pheasants, the fact that they have chicken shows obviously...
So you guys can talk about being a BYC educator or call us 'kids' because we don't believe a mule is going to destroy an entire species of pheasent.
Is breeding an Ohiki w/ a austrolorp going to destroy the entire breed of chickens? Course not! Label them as backyard crosses then sell them, butcher em, keep em as pets but just because the accident happened your entire gene pool isn't ruined.
Like I said, you have to worry about @$$holes selling known cross breeds as pures then some cheasents who are likely infertile.[/quote

Obviously you have never checked into the genetics of the birds you have bought wanting them to be pured......that's why those other that Tony who say "we are raising the for re-introduction...." "to save them from extiction..." are false...does it matter...yes....look at the IUCN protocols....

Clint

 

[cukooformarans]

Thank you Cochinbrahmalover