I think your first one is a porcelain d'Uccle. My d'Uccles went through a muffless stage while their feathers were growing in. If she doesn't grow a muff, then she is a booted bantam, which is pretty much a D'Uccle without a muff. lol. Your second one is definitely a frizzle. I think the color would be red. They both look like girls to me, but it's a little early to say for sure.