Please evaluate this comment. Ebay egg seller says...

[atalanta]

>>>>"Once the eggs have been in the incubator for a few days there is no way to tell if they were ever fertile or not."

 

[Kusanar]

I think they are saying that the bulseye will no longer show up. So, if you got fertile but dead eggs you may not be able to tell after a few days of incubation. If they were fertile but not dead then you would have growth happening.

 

[Trimurtisan]

Well that's kind of how you tell fertility... It develops, or it doesn't. To the best of my knowledge, the only ways to know fertility it to crack it open and look, or start the incubation process, and after a few days is when you can start seeing what is fertile.


Unless, this is what they're talking about...

I think they are saying that the bulseye will no longer show up. So, if you got fertile but dead eggs you may not be able to tell after a few days of incubation. If they were fertile but not dead then you would have growth happening.

 

[atalanta]

The condition of the eggs on arrival...
Packaging: Shipped well packaged, individually bubble wrapped, secured from rolling, but eggs were shipped on their sides.
Arrival candle with 1500 lumin LED flashlight:
Egg shell color: White
Egg shell condition: Of good shape, no cracks, some thin areas, low spotting (pores)
Air-cells: Large dislodged air-cells, rolling
Albumen: liquid looking contents
Yolk: somewhat indistinguishable
Notes: air-cell and size typical of old or improperly stored eggs, shipping on side could have affected air-cell dislodging and liquid albumen appearance
Day4 candle: Light bulbs

As compared to control eggs (local) and others set the same day from further parts of the country. All others set that day have little veins and signs of hearts developing.

 

[cmom]

With shipped eggs that is the risk that some or many may not hatch. A lot depends on how the eggs are handled. There is no way to tell if the eggs are fertile. I limit the number of females with a male and do a test hatch prior to shipping eggs. This is how I ship my eggs. So far so good.

 

[UThobbyfarmer]

Unfortunately I'd agree with the seller. Once you add an egg, fertile or infertile, into an incubator the blastodisc/blastoderm changes. Regardless of fertility. I switched to saying "developing" or "not developing" once I learned this.

So, no, I would not automatically assume that an egg without development is infertile. Eggs shipped from different places will have had very different journeys to you. I chose to give the sellers the benefit of the doubts. I've spent so much on shipped eggs over the years I'm way past the point of pinning hopes on a single hatch/seller. I just do it for fun and new genetics.

Best of luck with your hatch! I'm happy to hear that so many are developing and doing well.

 

[atalanta]

With shipped eggs that is the risk that some or many may not hatch. A lot depends on how the eggs are handled. There is no way to tell if the eggs are fertile. I limit the number of females with a male and do a test hatch prior to shipping eggs. This is how I ship my eggs. So far so good.
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Please evaluate the condition report:
The condition of the eggs on arrival...
Packaging: Shipped well packaged, individually bubble wrapped, secured from rolling, but eggs were shipped on their sides.
Travel: ~800+ miles, USPS
Arrival candle with 1500 lumin LED flashlight:
Egg shell color: White
Egg shell condition: Of good shape, no cracks, some thin areas, low spotting (pores)
Air-cells: Large dislodged air-cells, rolling
Albumen: liquid looking contents
Yolk: somewhat indistinguishable
Notes: air-cell and size typical of old or improperly stored eggs, shipping on side could have affected air-cell dislodging and liquid albumen appearance
Day4 candle: Light bulbs

As compared to control eggs (local) and others set the same day from further parts of the country. All others set that day have little veins and signs of hearts developing.

 

[UThobbyfarmer]

Please evaluate the condition report:
The condition of the eggs on arrival...
Packaging: Shipped well packaged, individually bubble wrapped, secured from rolling, but eggs were shipped on their sides.
Travel: ~800+ miles, USPS
Arrival candle with 1500 lumin LED flashlight:
Egg shell color: White
Egg shell condition: Of good shape, no cracks, some thin areas, low spotting (pores)
Air-cells: Large dislodged air-cells, rolling
Albumen: liquid looking contents
Yolk: somewhat indistinguishable
Notes: air-cell and size typical of old or improperly stored eggs, shipping on side could have affected air-cell dislodging and liquid albumen appearance
Day4 candle: Light bulbs

As compared to control eggs (local) and others set the same day from further parts of the country. All others set that day have little veins and signs of hearts developing.

The liquidy yolk and dislodged air cells sounds like these eggs had one heck of a rough shipment. They should be evaluated completely independent of the other eggs.

Will the seller work with you on a discounted replacement? Sometimes they will. Sometimes not. But it's completely up to them and what they've stated their policies are.

 

[cmom]

I have shipped eggs all over the USA from Florida to Washington state, Idaho as well as many other states. Bubble wrap is fine but also like encasing them in plastic. I ship my eggs 2/3 day priority mail and have sent some overnight. This is just the way I do it. I have had eggs shipped to me. Day 4 is a little early for seeing development as far as I see it. Sometimes I have had decent hatches and sometimes not. Good luck with your hatch and have fun...

 

[atalanta]

Quoted Ebay Seller's eggs, most have Large air-cells, liquidy albumen (couple from that same delivery have small to no air-cells and roundish Orange-yellow yolks). Upon cracking one open it behaved like an egg sitting on the counter for over thirty days. Yolk was a deep yellow with some separation.
Picture #1 is quoted ebay seller White shell.
Picture #2 is eggs from different ebay seller set the same day, shell is dark brownish-pink.