Please help! Do I need to put coconut oil on pip?

[HeatherKellyB]

Yeah.

Does it look small to you? Spitz are LF, aren't they? I can't open it. I am trying to work up the strength but I am just such a softie!

 

[MGG]

Does it look small to you? Spitz are LF, aren't they? I can't open it. I am trying to work up the strength but I am just such a softie!

Thank you! My humidity is at 60 now. I'll rewet my Sponge to bring it back up and add water to the water holes

Sounds good! I'd try to get it around 70%.

Does it look small to you? Spitz are LF, aren't they? I can't open it. I am trying to work up the strength but I am just such a softie!

Yeah it does. Looks like a day 17 or so quitter. When was it last confirmed alive? They are LF. If you open it you'll know when about it quit because of the yolk size and presence or lack of blood vessels. It's tough, especially when they're so anticipated. I'm really sorry about it. I have to o now, it's almost midnight here. I'll be back tomorrow. Good night. Hopefully you wake up to some little Seramas!

 

[HeatherKellyB]

@MGG one of the eggs that externally pipped last night still isn't out but did make what believe is a starting point for zipping. I believe it's chirping but it's hasn't progressed far. Should I intervene?

 

[HeatherKellyB]

Everything I've read says to start at air cell, but is that still the case when it's started to zip? But only made the initial break in the egg

 

[HeatherKellyB]

The egg right beside it has externally pipped as well. Humidity at 75%

 

[MGG]

Sorry! I was outside. Can you get a pic?

 

[HeatherKellyB]

I had a difficult time getting a picture with where it's pipped and where it is in the incubator. Trying to upload now @MGG

 

[HeatherKellyB]

 

[MGG]

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Hm...ok. Since it pipped the pointy end that was also it's internal pip. So don't rush it. What I would personally do is, start right at the pip, and finish the zip. Just go around in a circle. Use tweezers, and just chip little pieces of shell off. But at any time if you see any blood, stop. It does look like it might have started to zip and then stopped. Try to get a few little pieces of the outer membrane off with the shell so you can see if there's veins underneath. Only if you feel its time to assist and you don't see any blood though. There's no rush, the little one can breathe so it should be fine until morning. How are all of the other seramas? No hatchers yet?

 

[HeatherKellyB]

Hm...ok. Since it pipped the pointy end that was also it's internal pip. So don't rush it. What I would personally do is, start right at the pip, and finish the zip. Just go around in a circle. Use tweezers, and just chip little pieces of shell off. But at any time if you see any blood, stop. It does look like it might have started to zip and then stopped. Try to get a few little pieces of the outer membrane off with the shell so you can see if there's veins underneath. Only if you feel its time to assist and you don't see any blood though. There's no rush, the little one can breathe so it should be fine until morning. How are all of the other seramas? No hatchers yet?

No hatchers yet. The other one that externally pipped isn't moving or chirping. They've both been pipped for 24 hours but the one pictured did start to zip. The other did not. I have chirping and movements out of the egg beside the one I'm not sure if I should worry about