Please help me understand why it's OK for a rooster to crow....

[Hangin Wit My Peeps]

I do not want to have to get her fined or get her birds taken, I know she really enjoys them. However after reading these posts it seems that is the direction to go.

You sound like a reasonable person...maybe SHE is not so reasonable but all you can do is try and explain to her that you don't mind her keeping her hens but if she would please just get rid of the rooster....let her know your intentions and that if it keeps up then you will make the call . I think talking works better then action. I think you may have said you talked to her before?? Try again before getting her hens taken from her. I think it will only cause more trouble between you both if you go that route and who knows what will happen to the hens.​

 

[fullhouse]

Cock-a-doodle-DON'T :

I do not want to have to get her fined or get her birds taken, I know she really enjoys them. However after reading these posts it seems that is the direction to go.

I think if you have tried to discuss this and she is not trying to work with you at all, you have no option but to complain to the city.

On a side note, in your first post you said you had to "confront" her about it. Have you had other issues?​

 

[DuckLady]

We had a rooster who crowed all the time. He also waited for my neighbor to go outside and stood at the fence and crowed at him constantly. We didn't know because we were at work all day.
My neighbor approached me and nicely explained the situation and we agreed to find him a home. He even helped me by finding likely places and let me know the ones that would be a safe good home for him. I appreciated the caring and that he did care that my roo would be safe.

I'm posting here because when I confronted my neighbor about her noisy birds (for which there is an ordinance) she gave me an earful and sighted many of the same nonsense excuses I've read on this board (excepting the occasional voice of reason) and rudely told me where to go.

Now if he "confronted" me instead of "approaching" me, I would have told him where to go.

As it is, I want to be a good neighbor.
How was your "confrontation" handled with your neighbor? Did she have reason to give you an earful? By your avatar, I would say yes?​

 

[joebryant]

Cock-a-doodle-DON'T :

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I do not want to have to get her fined or get her birds taken, I know she really enjoys them. However after reading these posts it seems that is the direction to go.

After reading THAT, I'm not so sure about YOU. What satisfaction could you possibly get from thinking it would be okay to go the direction of causing her to "get her birds taken" knowing that "she really enjoys them"? The rooster is the issue, NOT her other chickens, i.e., you're beginning to sound vindictive.

EDIT: After thinking about it, I want to make it clear that I no longer presume that what you said in your original post is anything more than only YOUR side of the story about everything including what was said and how it was said to whom.​

 

[Run-A-Muck Ranch]

I don't want to ruffle any feathers here.....

hahaha I crack myself up!!!!!
I dont' know if this was already said or not...But this is just my 2 cents(which ain't worth much anymore). But here goes....

I understand about 5 a.m. crowing because someone wants to sleep. That is understandable....
But what about at 1 p.m. (when someone else is making noise)when the other person want to sleep because maybe they work an overnight shift or have a job that doesn't allow them to sleep the 'normal' night time hours???

When we lived in town (for the short period I thought I would like it) I had worked nights...11p-7a. Yes I chose to work these hours..As did the neighbor who chose to work 6a-2p. Well when I would try and sleep they would be up....
They would vaccum, move furniture, mow the lawn, allow there dogs to bark non-stop, cats constantly in heat (I swear right outside my bedroom window), fix vehicles, run there racing car motors, blah blah blah...I could go on and on about this...
It was just something you had to deal with...There sleep schedule and mine were completely different...

Now if there are ordinances/stautes being violated that's something different.

If one is being woken by a rooster, and say you have a dog that is keeping your neighbor up, than I guess they can turn around and use the same thing on you...

We moved out of town shortly after moving there. Not because noise or anything like that. That wasn't my point of posting...
I guess it was more along the lines of....What your quiet hours are and the neighbors might be different....Not everyone is going to be happy all the time...

Again, just my 2 cents...
Not meant to upset anyone...

Shawna

 

[MayberrySaint]

Whether poultry (roosters included) is allowed by city ordinances is inconsequential in this situation. This in no different than a dog barking day and night and causing a "noise" nuisance. Just because poultry is allowed, it does not mean a free license to be a nuisance...bad smells, roosters crowing, etc. A responsible pet owner needs to keep their facilities clean and roosters quiet at unreasonable times of the day. If the neighbor doesn't comply with your requests, I would have no problem going to the city and lodging a complaint.

 

[speckledhen]

I think we need to do unto others as we would want done unto us... not... do unto others as they do TO us

I agree. HOWEVER, when my rights conflict with their rights, why are mine less important just because it relates to a chicken? I have a right to raise chickens and keep a rooster for breeding. Why do I have to cowtow to someone else? Cant please everyone, so I wont try. Do you see my point? Should I tell them they can't ride their ATVs and jeeps and have fun on holidays because I hate that noise? They'd laugh in my face, Im sure. SO, I let them do whatever as long as it's not on my property and they need to allow me the same courtesy.
Sorry, Mayberry, you really cant keep a rooster quiet, especially when the coop windows must be open in summer. You can keep from having way too many for your property size, but they will crow, one or ten.

Edited to add: Note that I did say if she is in violation of a clear ordinance, then she really doesn't have a leg to stand on. It just brought up some side issues we are all discussing.​

 

[bluey]

I agree with Joe. If any complaint is to be made, it should be:

First, to the neighbor about the rooster.
Second, if #1 doesn't work, to the local officials about the rooster.

Why try to take her hens? That would be mighty un-neighborly

Of course in these situations, many people usually have ulterior motives for the things they do to and for their neighbors. It's impossible to know what motivates people. Some people are just bored or controlling while others have legitimate concerns.

 

[Run-A-Muck Ranch]

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I agree. HOWEVER, when my rights conflict with their rights, why are mine less important just because it relates to a chicken? I have a right to raise chickens and keep a rooster for breeding. Why do I have to cowtow to someone else? Cant please everyone, so I wont try. Do you see my point? Should I tell them they can't ride their ATVs and jeeps and have fun on holidays because I hate that noise? They'd laugh in my face, Im sure. SO, I let them do whatever as long as it's not on my property and they need to allow me the same courtesy.
Sorry, Mayberry, you really cant keep a rooster quiet, especially when the coop windows must be open in summer. You can keep from having way too many for your property size, but they will crow, one or ten.

I think that's kinda what I was talking about...
Living in town....I think people feel they can control things better and try to enforce something of there liking more.
Just because I wanted to sleep when the neighbor wanted to work on there race car doesn't mean I can make them be quiet. It doesn't mean that I can make them get rid of the car, or even fix there cat because it was noisey.
As if I was vaccuming when they were trying to sleep, or starting my vehicle when they were trying to sleep doesn't give them the right to have me not vaccum at that hour, or stop me from starting my car when I wanted to.

Even living out in the country where it is a little more subdue you still can't please everyone everytime...
Our rooster will crow, our dog will bark, my sheep will baaa, our vehicles will make noise...At what hour?.?.?.?. All day and night. Not to be a nusiance, but because that's what they will do....
My neighbors guniea will make noise, there cows will mooo, there tractors will run loudly....At what hour?.?.?.?.?. All day and night. Not to be a nusiance, but because that's what they will do...

Some noises you have to deal with.
Pretty soon there will be ordinances reguarding the city street lights when they turn on...the buzzing they produce is going to be to loud, or the crickets in the country will be sited for make to much noise. How about the bull frogs. There will be another complaint from someone someday....farmers out working until the wee hours of the morning trying to get there crops in...pretty soon someone will complain about that noise...The sirens on the emergency vehicles another complaint about breaking the 'silence' of living in town.

Sometimes I want to pull my hair out...I would not nor will I bow down to someone because they feel my animal is keeping them from there sleep. I guarentee they would not like it if I told them to conform there sleep times to the times my animals are up~~and then they wouldn't be awaken by my animals.

Again like I said...if already written ordinances/stautes are being broken then that's different. But if it's just to complain....

un......( I would be kicked off the site if I said what I wanted...)

Shawna

 

[chickhappy1921]

One point - I had rather hear a rooster crowing, than a dog barking....pick your medicine wisely, and dont sweat the small stuff. A good fan in the bedroom is all you need