Plymouth Rock thread!

[Robert Blosl]

Jamie Duckworth males from his face book page


Jamie Parker Females from his face book page





Jeff Halbach male from his face book page.


Type is Paramount said Harold Tompkins a great breeder of large fowl in the 1940s and d50s. That is what many people forget when they get evolved in a rare hard to breed color of Plymouth Rocks. In some color patterns they are so run down you would have to raise 150 chicks per year for ten years to get five good birds to up grade. That is why so many of us don't do it as we cant afford the feed bill and how to get rid of the surplus birds. If we could sell the surplus stock and break even for say meat maybe we could pull this off over time.

If you got a good strain of White Rocks you can raise 40 chicks per two or three females and have birds that will score high enough to win Champion American or even higher. That's why I like to see beginners start out with a good strain of white rocks for say five years learn how to breed for type then get the color they want and plow away. They have the hang of what it takes to breed good rock type with the rocks.

I did this with White call ducks. Then got me some killer gray calls and breed them like that for 8 years. It really helped me on my mission.

Be leave it or not many beginners want the hardest color pattern there is in Plymouth Rocks because the picture they see in the standard or the catalog looks so pretty. What experience do these people have in breeding. They tell me they are going to get a incubator at the feed store for $40. and they have never plugged a incubator in a wall in their life. Yet they want to have success with these color patterns. What do you thing happens over a three year period. Here today gone tomorrow chicken person.

KISS

 

[catdaddyfro]

I also find his balance really off, his legs seem set way far back to me. Just trying to give some input.

I'd go for type over colour any day of the week. He just seems off to me.

Camera angle, maybe?(its how they use trick photography esp in the adult only shows to exaggerate length

and such)

or he might be going for squat to poo or just finishing up. Picture poses are too hard to really judge, hard to really say much about the stance, balance + many other things to see or not to see in them

J/S

Jeff

 

[Yard full o' rocks]

Jamie Duckworth males from his face book page


Jamie Parker Females from his face book page





Jeff Halbach male from his face book page.


Type is Paramount said Harold Tompkins a great breeder of large fowl in the 1940s and d50s. That is what many people forget when they get evolved in a rare hard to breed color of Plymouth Rocks. In some color patterns they are so run down you would have to raise 150 chicks per year for ten years to get five good birds to up grade. That is why so many of us don't do it as we cant afford the feed bill and how to get rid of the surplus birds. If we could sell the surplus stock and break even for say meat maybe we could pull this off over time.

If you got a good strain of White Rocks you can raise 40 chicks per two or three females and have birds that will score high enough to win Champion American or even higher. That's why I like to see beginners start out with a good strain of white rocks for say five years learn how to breed for type then get the color they want and plow away. They have the hang of what it takes to breed good rock type with the rocks.

I did this with White call ducks. Then got me some killer gray calls and breed them like that for 8 years. It really helped me on my mission.

WOW....those 2 top cock birds and the one on the bottom have incredible balance AND great tails.

Bob - I am using one of the lines Jamie D used in his barreds as an outcross in my Columbians to hopefully aide my tails (for the males)....I have one stellar pullet that is 3/4 Columbian Rock, 1/4 barred and at 3 months old, she's "got it"....good balance, great topline and front end, I'll PM you a few pix of her. I'm mating her back to her sire in November to see what she throws

 

[Silver Rock]

I also find his balance really off, his legs seem set way far back to me. Just trying to give some input.

I'd go for type over colour any day of the week. He just seems off to me. 

I understand were your comments are coming from. I am looking at him right now in real life and I am proud of what I see and I will continue to post pictures of my Silver Penciled Plymouth Rocks on this thread.Like I said I thank you for your input.

 

[Wynette]

What I love most about the pic of the 2 Duckworth males is that they are almost carbon copies!

Also LOVE the underline of the J. Parker female; holy heck, it's just a lovely picture.

Y'all keep posting pics of these gorgeous barreds and I'm gonna have to build me another barn!

 

[aoxa]

If you got a good strain of White Rocks you can raise 40 chicks per two or three females and have birds that will score high enough to win Champion American or even higher. That's why I like to see beginners start out with a good strain of white rocks for say five years learn how to breed for type then get the color they want and plow away. They have the hang of what it takes to breed good rock type with the rocks.

I hear this all the time from Jamie Carson, who has taken to mentoring me since I started showing for the first time last year. Always telling me to go for the WHITES. I think they are beautiful birds, but I do prefer my Barred over all other varieties. Different strokes I guess.

The whites always seem to do the best in any varieties. Why is that? Why do whites tend to have better type in most breeds?

 

[Yard full o' rocks]

What I love most about the pic of the 2 Duckworth males is that they are almost carbon copies!

Also LOVE the underline of the J. Parker female; holy heck, it's just a lovely picture.

Y'all keep posting pics of these gorgeous barreds and I'm gonna have to build me another barn!

That female (and all the females I've seen come out of this line) are super looking.

Smooth topline with NO CUSHIONS and nice tail lift, no breaks at the tail
SUPER underline as you mentioned
And look at that tail spread.....WOW

All that said without any mention of color/pattern which is also very very good

 

[Wynette]

The whites always seem to do the best in any varieties. Why is that? Why do whites tend to have better type in most breeds?

Patterns. Tough stuff.

 

[Fred's Hens]

I hear this all the time from Jamie Carson, who has taken to mentoring me since I started showing for the first time last year. Always telling me to go for the WHITES. I think they are beautiful birds, but I do prefer my Barred over all other varieties. Different strokes I guess.

The whites always seem to do the best in any varieties. Why is that? Why do whites tend to have better type in most breeds?

Cause they are White and big!!! LOL If can don't have to take cuts on coloring/pattern, you scored a bit higher, all things being equal, eh?

 

[DMRippy]

Is there anyone that are raisng up the black that are the offshoot ofthe blue variety?

I hope to next spring. I have a blue and black K coming the first of September. GREAT YELLOW LEGS TOO. I will first have to cross them with my hatreds to get some pullets.....now that I think about it it might be late summer. lol