Plymouth Rock thread!

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Cybercat,
The last 20 years haven't seen great Barred Plymouth Rocks. What I have seen is what hatcheries have wanted you to see and that is a type of Barred Rock/Leghorn crosses. That is why you have the pointy up high "leghorn" tails and cuckoo markings. They didn't want to invest and improve the breed by correct culling and instead went with crosses. The Barred Rocks of the early part of the 1900's had both great egg laying records and meat production. The path most hatcheries has taken lately was to cross the Leghorn over a Rock to put back the egg laying ability that was no longer present into the Rocks. That is where the wider barring came from, the "Cuckoo" effect, from the faster rate of feathering and egg ability the Leghorns brought into the cross. Leghorns feather faster, therefore barring suffered. To get fine barring, you have to have slow feathering. The hatcheries are producing single combed Dominiques in my opinion. If you look back in the older Poultry mags of the 1920's and 30's, you'll see the fine barring. Ralph Sturgeon, a great rock breeder, had fine barring in the 70's and the 80's. If you look at Shillings photos in the Plymouth Rock standard you'll see the narrow barring. EB Thompson's and Holterman's birds all had fine barring, the giants of Rock breeders. The rocks that are described in the Standard are not offered by any hatchery I know, that is why I sought after individuals to acquire great breeding stock. With any recovery effort, you have to build the barn before you paint it, and that is where I am at, trying to get the traditional production standard before working on the barring. I have several older mags with pic's I'll try to post some photos of so everyone can see the foundational rocks from the early part of last century. Just my opinion from years of research......
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Ducktang .... beautiful birds! I love your pictures! So, it sounds like you have researched the breed, and enjoy working with them. I want to learn more about them, as I am only at the stepping stone of raising poultry, and have a long way to go!
 
If you are interested in Plymouth Rocks, join the breed club and get the newsletter where tips are giving monthly. Here is some info:
www.crohio.com
many breed club sites here
Plymouth Rock site here, many nights of reading here; look in the photo gallery on the left hand side for some pic's:
http://www.crohio.com/rockclub/
read the Rock Standard , this is the bible!
http://www.crohio.com/rockclub/Rock Breed Book.pdf

I have read many older poultry books from 1910-1940's. These books mimic the methodology of raising poultry like we do now as a hobby. Believe it or not, our housing and barns today are similiar to the way farmers made a living with them then. We are fortunate with Rocks, because before the Cornish/Rock crosses became the norm of the broiler industry in the 50's, much research was performed by the USDA on improving the breed to use a fryers and roasters to feed the country. We can use much of this info that was written in these books to our benefit. I found my books on ebay over the course of a couple years for $10 -$15 each. The ALBC did much legwork compiling this info for their Buckeye growout program. Check here:
http://www.albc-usa.org/EducationalResources/chickens.html
Read the section Chapter 1-3. At the end, there is a list of sources sited. Just search ebay for a few of these books and read the sections on Rocks.
http://www.albc-usa.org/documents/ALBCchicken_assessment-1.pdf
http://www.albc-usa.org/documents/ALBCchicken_assessment-2.pdf
http://www.albc-usa.org/documents/ALBCchicken_assessment-3.pdf
Also look for some Reliable Poultry Journals (ceased publication mid 30's). I hope this isn't overwhelming, but it will help you with your goals knowing of these great resources. I just hate it took me as long as it did to learn these things. A great book to find is Judging Poultry for Production by Rice. Anything written by Morley Jull is worth reading. Also if you can find a pamphlet written by Ralph Sturgeon called Start Where You Are With What You Have it is worth its weight in gold. Happy Reading!
 
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Are you kidding .... I love it! You have done all the work for me!
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I will go check these resources. As a matter of fact, I do have a couple people keeping an eye out for old poultry books for me.
Thanks so much!
 
This is Roast Beef
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She is veryyyy jealous when i hold the other birdies and not her
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Even though if i pick her up first she jumps down LOL! But we love her very much
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Plymouth Rocks ROCK!
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Justino, your Roast Beef has the same solid black feather on her chest that both of my Ideal Poultry girls, Lexie and Ivy, do.


There isn't much more impressive than a flock of breeder/show quality Barred Rocks.
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yeah speckledhen, i noticed those....she has like maybe 4 of them...whats with that?
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I think theyre cool, make her look unique
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Cyn....I totally forgot that my BR girls are your "grand-chickens". I got my eggs from Lockedhearts so I guess Dutch's brother Mace is their daddy??? I'll have to get some pix of them and post them. They are nothing spectacular like Ducks, but pretty girls nonetheless.....and laying like crazy right now
 
I've got baby pics!
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I'm in love with this little guy-
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I love the way the BBS are so easy to color sex! If I ever have room I might try to hatch some blue barreds as well as BBS. Rocks have such great personalities. Justino- I love your Roast Beef- she looks like she means business!
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