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Q-9...First, it is well settled that you do not get to make the determination of what laws may or may not be constitutional or not. You, and others, may not like that, but that is the case. There are many people sitting in Federal prisons who decided that they would not obey a law that they deemed to be unconstitutional. The Courts are the final arbiter of that question, not some jerk water sheriff
Second: If you can not see that it is the same type of persons that are making this "I will refuse to obey or I will refuse to enforce" noise that refused to desegregate and it took Federal troops to force them to obey what was the law of the land. You do not remember, but quite a few people felt that the laws regarding desegregation was unconstitutional even though the Supreme Court said otherwise. My point is NOT dishonest or foolish. It is correct on all four corners and that is what is making you angry because you do not want to be associated with that bunch.
Third: What you may consider to be common sense is viewed by quite a few others (in fact the majority) as pig headed and dumb and that is not elitism.
Fourth: This may come as a suprise, but Congress can ( and does all the time) vote away some individual rights and sometimes those laws are upheld as reasonable restrictions on a subject and sometimes the Courts hold they went too far and strike them down. But until such time as they are striken, those laws are the law of the land. And remember, Congress votes on the law but then the Executive branch puts it into law.
Sixth: I do not mock that sheriff for not being an important national figure. I mock him because he is a self serving jerk who has no business being in law enforcement. Let him run for Congress because that is where the real jerks are.
Seventh: The Supreme Court has ruled many times and in many instances that the law can and does regulate weapons and speech. Sorry that you have just figured that out. So when you are looking for how the Federal Govt got that authority, go to law school and read the myriad of case law.
Eigth: From your last line I believe that you have been born about a century too late and on the wrong continent.
 
Q-9...First, it is well settled that you do not get to make the determination of what laws may or may not be constitutional or not. You, and others, may not like that, but that is the case. There are many people sitting in Federal prisons who decided that they would not obey a law that they deemed to be unconstitutional. The Courts are the final arbiter of that question, not some jerk water sheriff
Second: If you can not see that it is the same type of persons that are making this "I will refuse to obey or I will refuse to enforce" noise that refused to desegregate and it took Federal troops to force them to obey what was the law of the land. You do not remember, but quite a few people felt that the laws regarding desegregation was unconstitutional even though the Supreme Court said otherwise. My point is NOT dishonest or foolish. It is correct on all four corners and that is what is making you angry because you do not want to be associated with that bunch.
Third: What you may consider to be common sense is viewed by quite a few others (in fact the majority) as pig headed and dumb and that is not elitism.
Fourth: This may come as a suprise, but Congress can ( and does all the time) vote away some individual rights and sometimes those laws are upheld as reasonable restrictions on a subject and sometimes the Courts hold they went too far and strike them down. But until such time as they are striken, those laws are the law of the land. And remember, Congress votes on the law but then the Executive branch puts it into law.
Sixth: I do not mock that sheriff for not being an important national figure. I mock him because he is a self serving jerk who has no business being in law enforcement. Let him run for Congress because that is where the real jerks are.
Seventh: The Supreme Court has ruled many times and in many instances that the law can and does regulate weapons and speech. Sorry that you have just figured that out. So when you are looking for how the Federal Govt got that authority, go to law school and read the myriad of case law.
Eigth: From your last line I believe that you have been born about a century too late and on the wrong continent.
So if the president signs an executive order to round up all red headed people and ship them to camps. Then every "jerk water sheriff" should start rounding up red heads ?
 
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I'm not sure if this has been posted before, but it gave me a chuckle and made me think of this thread. I hope it does the same for y'all (and this is my only contribution to the gun debate).
Nikki
 
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So if the president signs an executive order to round up all red headed people and ship them to camps. Then every "jerk water sheriff" should start rounding up red heads ?
Sure sounds like it. And that's the exact same sort of behavior, among others, that led to our country seceding and the American Revolution. Our forefathers actually did it for less than what is going on right now.
 
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Ya know, I had a sociology professor in university that hated to hear "studies show", and there was a good reason for it...studies can be geared to show anything you want them to show, and she told us that.

I wanted to own a handgun at 18, I was in college, and it had nothing to with wanting to perpetuate violence OR hunt anything. It had to do with the fact that I lived in a gang-infested neighborhood where our front window got shot out, my car got robbed and there was no telling what would happen next in the two abandoned buildings next door. There was no telling if someone might break down the door. I highly doubt any study can factor in all such individual factors before they "show" anything. Anybody with half a brain in my situation then would want more than a steak-knife to protect themselves with if the situation arose.

It's all well and fine for people who have Secret Service agents, bodyguards, etc to be making all these laws and orders, because they don't live in the world that the rest of us do. Be interested to know what they would think if they were suddenly out of office with no protection of any kind except their own two hands.
 
Actually sheriffs can not enforce unconstitutional laws. The lowest of the low in the military also can not follow unconstitutional orders. They also have to interpret the constitution.
 
So if the president signs an executive order to round up all red headed people and ship them to camps. Then every "jerk water sheriff" should start rounding up red heads ?
If that happens, let me know. By the way, are you a red head? Do you really think that your response was even remotely responsive to anything I said? And also, the example you gave has already been done except it was in the 1940's and the order was to round up the Japanese and every jerk water sheriff was anxious to do the job. Once again they make the wrong decision.
 
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