Political Ramblings

[rebelcowboysnb]

Quote: I wont disagree with that study. I assume they were looking at shootings an worked back to see who had a gun an who didnt. If they took number of CCW holders that have been shot compared to the general population they would probably see the same thing. I would like to read details on how the study was actually handled though.

Lets face facts, many people carry a gun cause they are already a target. Others go from being one of many targets to the prime target when they draw a gun. There are also criminals that have no will to shoot but when faced with a gun they do. Or the CCW holder that draws but hesitates. The shooter starts with the upper hand. He is ready an knows what he is going to do. Everyone else is behind the 8 ball from the start. All of these things happen to cops as well.

 

[Capvin]

Rebel...just admit that you posted that dumb picture for a desired effect. I am a gun owner and a hunter. I have many guns and I carry. In addition I was in combat, shot a 50 cal from the doorway of a helicopter and would NOT ever post that kind of picture. What you may or may not have been doing is irrelevant and it may have been the reason for the gun being there, but please tell me, what is the reason for taking that kind of picture and what could be the possible reason for posting it? For most responsible gun owners that type of posting is not a good argument for gun ownership but, on the contrary, is an argument for gun control.

 

[chickened]

Don... what does the picture in your avatar suggest?

 

[Capvin]

Ed. You are in a strange place if you think that me holding a shotgun in one hand and a chicken in the other is comparable to having a semi auto weapon seemingly mounted on a vehicle. I think most people would figure out that my avatar (which is actually me) is a sort of funny way of saying that I am protecting my chickens. A semi auto mounted on a truck is another way of saying that I am prepared to go and kill people in a fourth world country. Please, you are really getting way out there.

 

[cupman]

Seems there's a gun control debate every three weeks on BYC even though nobody is trying to take anyone's guns away. Only people like the NRA keep this nonsense going because without it they wouldn't have reason to exist. Every couple months they make something up to scare their base that believe everything they're told.

 

[hemet dennis]

Ed. You are in a strange place if you think that me holding a shotgun in one hand and a chicken in the other is comparable to having a semi auto weapon seemingly mounted on a vehicle. I think most people would figure out that my avatar (which is actually me) is a sort of funny way of saying that I am protecting my chickens. A semi auto mounted on a truck is another way of saying that I am prepared to go and kill people in a fourth world country. Please, you are really getting way out there.

Really ??

You thought that it was mounted on the truck ?

Now who's getting way out there ?

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Seems there's a gun control debate every three weeks on BYC even though nobody is trying to take anyone's guns away. Only people like the NRA keep this nonsense going because without it they wouldn't have reason to exist. Every couple months they make something up to scare their base that believe everything they're told.

I have no use for the NRA. They are not pro anything other than pro NRA.

 

[hemet dennis]

Seems there's a gun control debate every three weeks on BYC even though nobody is trying to take anyone's guns away. Only people like the NRA keep this nonsense going because without it they wouldn't have reason to exist. Every couple months they make something up to scare their base that believe everything they're told.

Where did you come up with that ?

http://news.yahoo.com/court-ruling-...-080837569.html;_ylt=A2KJjalKSslQhx0AGgrQtDMD

It's an on going fight to keep our rights.

 

[cupman]

I was speaking on a national level. The NRA and others said Obama was coming for your guns and guess what? The only thing he has done with guns is loosen restrictions on guns in national parks. I think people like you just get excited over things like this and make a bigger deal out of it than it really is. The article you link says the federal appeals court found the ban unconstitutional. I think at the end of it all the second amendment will trump any of these city or state laws.

Also you seem to be confusing restrictions on guns to physically taking guns away. We can't have fully automatic weapons but I don't see the outrage over that. Why not?

 

[thaiturkey]

I think that the people screaming for stiffer gun control have never been forced to use a gun to protect themselves.

When my husband and I started dating, I had never pulled a trigger a day in my life. He purchased a few guns that I would be comfortable shooting and started taking me to the range. I went through a safety class and learned how to use several types of firearms well.

When Kevin and I got married and I moved in, the area he was living in was.... less than wholesome to say the least. And he worked night shift 2 weeks of every month. One night, around 2:00 a.m. a group of young boys tried to break into our home. I was alone and scared to death. I called 911 and announced to the burglars that I had a gun. Well of course my voice was shaking so they didn't take me seriously and continued to attempt to pry our doors open; some were at the front door and some were at the back. I yelled again and then slid the pump on our shotgun. It's a home defense weapon, identical to what the coast guard uses for close range shooting. The pump is loud and commands attention. They stopped in their tracks and ran. It turns out they were using screw drivers and knives to try to wedge the doors open. The 911 call center was less than 2 blocks from our front door. It took almost 45 minutes for the police to respond. If I hadn't had a gun and known how to use it, I shudder to think what could have happened to me that night. One of the boys even left a hunting knife stuck in the door jam. It had his initials on it and had been purchased at a local pawn shop. It was easy to trace and after a little pressure from our sheriff's department, he came clean and ratted on his buddies too. They all admitted that hearing the gun and knowing I was telling the truth was what made them stop.

You say there is no place for self policing? I beg to differ!

Judging by some of the CNN interviews this morning, the screaming is being done by the 'guns for all people in all places' characters who shout down anyone who disagrees with them.

Self defence weapons in the home are acceptable if they are legal. That's why we have a gun and why we practice at a gun club. We also intend to use it when the next dog is seen on our property.

The people with whom I take issue are those who attempt to justify the carrying of powerful weapons in public places, claiming that they need them for self-defence. If someone really believes that he is in such danger and his quality of life is so low, then he should either move to live elsewhere or get some psychotherapy.