Political Ramblings

[hemet dennis]

Call it what you want but the check says SSI on it an so does the paperwork that goes with it.

Then under what are they getting it ?

http://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-child-ussi.htm

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Quote: I have been pretty specific already so I dont know what you are wanting me to tell you?

My first post covers what made them eligible for SSI.

 

[duckinnut]

Is Congress good with money? just sayin

Think you meant to say good with OUR money.

 

[kuntrygirl]

?  Allowing people to privatize their own retirement?  I think it's a great idea for people that are good with money, and a bad idea for people that aren't.

Instead of reading the sensationalized misrepresentation, why don't you read the original report: http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/newsroom/ty100710.html
and a straightforward commentary: http://money.cnn.com/2010/11/22/pf/expert/retirement_401k_government.moneymag/index.htm

Is Congress good with money? just sayin

No, which is why I'd rather have my SS money turned over to me  Let me run it the way I run the rest of my life.

I totally agree with you.

 

[kuntrygirl]

*SS should be JUST like my 401k. What I put in, I should get out or just stop taking it out of my check and let me have my money to put in my 401K. :/

So if a person NEVER works in their life, do they get social security? I better brace myself for this answer because if it's not what I want to hear then..............*holding my breath for the answer*.

If a person never works in their life they might be able to qualify for SSI (Supplemental Security Income) how much you qualify depends on many factors but the most I've ever seen someone be awarded is $698.  You can also get SSI if you have a disability but never worked or put enough into the system so you don't qualify for SSDI (Social Security Disability Income).

One of my older neighbors who worked about 2 weeks in his life and decided that the work force was not for him, so he turned to farming and received cash for the things he sold, is now disabled and he gets $698.00 every month.

 

[kuntrygirl]

*SS should be JUST like my 401k. What I put in, I should get out or just stop taking it out of my check and let me have my money to put in my 401K. :/

So if a person NEVER works in their life, do they get social security? I better brace myself for this answer because if it's not what I want to hear then..............*holding my breath for the answer*.

If their spouse paid in, they can draw on their spouse. The first generation for social security had lots and lots of women who didn't work and all outlived their husbands. If their husband paid in, then by golly they should get that money.

Now, if a person just chooses not to work, or works under the table and doesn't have the money taken out, they have nothing to pull from. So, that's usually when they wind up being supported by the state, here in Oregon. I'm not sure how other states work. I work with the elderly and see soooo many who didn't plan ahead, or trusted social security to take care of them. Now one or both of them are trying to live on a grand a month and they've usually got skanky grandkids trying to live with them and mooch off them. Ticks me off. Sorry, soapbox from an issue at work today   and not totally relevant!

Gotcah'. No problem on the soapbox. I may get on one in a while and join you.

 

[ChickensRDinos]

One of my older neighbors who worked about 2 weeks in his life and decided that the work force was not for him, so he turned to farming and received cash for the things he sold, is now disabled and he gets $698.00 every month.

What would you realistically prefer to see happen?

 

[bakerjw]

The husband of one of my wife's friends just went on disability. He's in his mid 30's, weighs in excess of 300 lbs, has already had a heart attack, and can't stand for more than 15 minutes at a time... TaDa! Another disabled person. Who is also going to get back pay for the years that he's been trying to get on disability.

 

[kuntrygirl]

One of my older neighbors who worked about 2 weeks in his life and decided that the work force was not for him, so he turned to farming and received cash for the things he sold, is now disabled and he gets $698.00 every month.

What would you realistically prefer to see happen?

Good question. My opinions tend to become a little more rigid and strict, so it's probably best I not say anything.

 

[kuntrygirl]

The husband of one of my wife's friends just went on disability. He's in his mid 30's, weighs in excess of 300 lbs, has already had a heart attack, and can't stand for more than 15 minutes at a time... TaDa! Another disabled person. Who is also going to get back pay for the years that he's been trying to get on disability.

As I was typing, you were posting. This is where my opinions become a little rigid for people that fall in this category.

I have a co-worker who sees about 10 different doctors due to things that she brought upon herself from smoking (only has 1 working lung and still smokes, has monthly sinus infections due to smoking) and not taking care of herself. She is counting the days down that she can claim "disable".