Porcelain color

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Nope, that will just end up giving you lavender mottleds, got to have that millie to make porcelain. As mentioned, lavender is a diluter, so you have to have that red body of the millie to be diluted by the lavender to get the tannish color of the porcelain, if that makes sense?

Nope; mottled is ALSO recessive, needing two genes to show in adult plumage (although it can (desn't always)show in immature plumage with only one copy)

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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Nope, that will just end up giving you lavender mottleds, got to have that millie to make porcelain. As mentioned, lavender is a diluter, so you have to have that red body of the millie to be diluted by the lavender to get the tannish color of the porcelain, if that makes sense?

Hey Aimee
I just figured out who you were. Sharpe huh. I am still a littled confused about porcelain. What should I get when I breed my blue mille's together?

actually this is her husband , Aubrey
Whne breeding any blue ed bird, you get 3 colors
at this ratio
2 blue phase
1 black phase
1 splash phase

and yes your f1 lavender to mottled will be black, you have to cross them once more to each to get the lavender mottleds, do it right now on my d'anvers


The diluter to make blue millie fluers, is blue

you take blue or splash to the colored bird of choice, all F1's will be blue, then cross back to the color and get the blued version

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Lavender is a diluter of pigment and is recessive. When split, the black/red is dominant so, it will look mille. When two copies of the lavender gene are present, it will show lavender.

NO EMUS!!!!

A mille fleur split to lavender looks like a mille fleur (cannot tell the difference). There is no evidence of lavender in the bird UNLESS two copies are present. Lavender is NOT a leaky recessive. Emu are cute

 

[ChooksChick]

Blue Mille to Blue Mille will just give Blue Mille/Mille Fleur/Splash Mille as the blue gene doesn't breed true. The Lavender gene is a different mutation all together and can't be created, but must be introduced to a line. Porcelain is created because the Lavender gene dilutes both the Buff/Gold color of the Mille Fleur AND the Black of the Mottled part of the Mille Fleur pattern.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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No. For blue mille fleur, you need blue or splash.

 

[wilds of pa]

Always remember when you use a clean lavender bird, look at it as if it were black, because if you just take a clean lavender (black bird in hiding) and breed it to Milli there will be a whole mess of colors coming from this cross, many birds will need to be grown out and re-breed against siblings in order to obtain porcelain. it will take much time to get what you are after..

 

[DANNY]

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Hey Aimee
I just figured out who you were. Sharpe huh. I am still a littled confused about porcelain. What should I get when I breed my blue mille's together?

actually this is her husband , Aubrey
Whne breeding any blue ed bird, you get 3 colors
at this ratio
2 blue phase
1 black phase
1 splash phase

and yes your f1 lavender to mottled will be black, you have to cross them once more to each to get the lavender mottleds, do it right now on my d'anvers


The diluter to make blue millie fluers, is blue

you take blue or splash to the colored bird of choice, all F1's will be blue, then cross back to the color and get the blued version

Well Hello Aubrey
Sorry, I guess I never met you at any of the shows. I guess what had me so confused is that years ago when mille fluer old were so popular I raised a lot of mille and blue milles and always got porcelain out of my blue milles and don't recall any splashed. The only thing I acn figure is that the blue milles I had were split to porcelain/lavender. Does that sound reasonable

 

[key west chick]

Ok then, scratch all that. What is the largest breed that comes in porcelain?(Thats fairly easy to acquire?) Oh, and not a silkie.

 

[wilds of pa]

Not sure, but i dont think any porcelain in large fowl yet in the usa ?? of course there are about 500 chicken breeds, but not all available in the usa..

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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actually this is her husband , Aubrey
Whne breeding any blue ed bird, you get 3 colors
at this ratio
2 blue phase
1 black phase
1 splash phase

and yes your f1 lavender to mottled will be black, you have to cross them once more to each to get the lavender mottleds, do it right now on my d'anvers


The diluter to make blue millie fluers, is blue

you take blue or splash to the colored bird of choice, all F1's will be blue, then cross back to the color and get the blued version

Well Hello Aubrey
Sorry, I guess I never met you at any of the shows. I guess what had me so confused is that years ago when mille fluer old were so popular I raised a lot of mille and blue milles and always got porcelain out of my blue milles and don't recall any splashed. The only thing I acn figure is that the blue milles I had were split to porcelain/lavender. Does that sound reasonable

Could be possible, all depends on what they had in them. The splash look kinda funky in them too, but would most commonly resemble goldneck