Possible Guinea Eggs in "Quail" Batch?

[Granny Hatchet]

am i the only one up this morn ? the early bird stays tired all day

 

[matt1jsh]

am i the only one up this morn ? the early bird stays tired all day

 

[Granny Hatchet]

ok, guess i missed matt, so i will tell you a story my father told me. his brother owned a gas station in northern ohio back in the 60s and he was telling my dad that every day this strange dog would come to the station and just start running in circles around the pump bothering him and his customers and it was driving him nuts. so he told my father the next time that dog comes he was going to catch it and fill his butt up with gasoline my dad wanted to see this so he made sure he was there the next day. sure enough here comes this mangy dog, running around his pumps. my uncle grabbed it by the tail, took the hose nozzle and shoved it up his butt. when he let go that dog started running and running around those pumps like the devil was on him. 20-25 times around and then it just stopped in its tracks and fell over. no movement at all. did it die i asked him? naw, he said it just ran out of gas.

 

[Cheyen]

The little guy hasn't hatched yet. I might stay home from school to keep an eye on it. If he isn't out by the 30th hour, I might do an assisted hatch.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

have you done it before? how long has it been now? i do that a lot just because i like to

 

[Cheyen]

Oh dear... It's actually been 32 hours! I have never done an assisted hatch, but I am willing to for this little one.

 

[Cheyen]

Well, I began the "surgery". I chipped away very slowly along the zip line, only to find that the little guy's inner membrane was still full of blood vessels! He was also ever so slightly shrink wrapped, so I stopped and wrapped a dampened cloth around him in hopes of loosening the membrane. Because his membrane is still such a deep red, I'm thinking he's either a very, very late developing chukar... or a rather early guinea. None of the other eggs have pipped yet, so the guinea part is still a possibility. I will check on him every two hours to see if he absorbed any of the blood vessels. I hope I made the right decision.

 

[Starkasm]

Well, I began the "surgery". I chipped away very slowly along the zip line, only to find that the little guy's inner membrane was still full of blood vessels! He was also ever so slightly shrink wrapped, so I stopped and wrapped a dampened cloth around him in hopes of loosening the membrane. Because his membrane is still such a deep red, I'm thinking he's either a very, very late developing chukar... or a rather early guinea. None of the other eggs have pipped yet, so the guinea part is still a possibility. I will check on him every two hours to see if he absorbed any of the blood vessels. I hope I made the right decision.

Listen as long as his little beak and nostrils are visible, like not covered with membrane. He's okay. The blood vessels means he just not quite ready, so he probably hasn't absorbed the egg sac either.. If his nostrils are covered you can take a warm damp paper towel and push the membrane off them. Don't tear it.
Him breathing air will make the blood vessels and egg sac absorb. It makes the process kick in.

 

[Cheyen]

He's had a little window for him to breathe out of since he pipped, so no problems in that department. I'm just worried about how red that membrane still looked. He's either a guinea hatching way too early, or a chukar that developed way too slowly. Do you know why he would pip if he's not ready to come out yet?

 

[Starkasm]

He's had a little window for him to breathe out of since he pipped, so no problems in that department. I'm just worried about how red that membrane still looked. He's either a guinea hatching way too early, or a chukar that developed way too slowly. Do you know why he would pip if he's not ready to come out yet?

He wouldn't. I came on byc at the end of last month cause I thought my calls were a day late and was freaking. It was day 29!!! omg a day late. Turns out they hatch at day 26ish. just having the temp on the incubator slightly off and not quite high enough can make them come late. Same with too high, they can come early.
I helped my last quail out. He pipped second and still wasn't out after everyone else had popped. He was tiny so had a hard time. Not the first bird I've helped so he was okay.
I peel the shell to get a better look. Then I heat up water and wet a paper towel and dampen the membrane to see the vein situation. I make sure his mouth and nostrils are clear then I wrap him up in a damp paper towel and keep checking. After the veins are pretty gone I push back the membrane - not tear it and help him get his little head out. Then I put him back in to do his work.
Once in a while the membrane on their back gets a little stuck and I do the same thing. Moisten it and push it down. Then I let them pop out of the bottom when they're ready. I never take them out of the bottom shell because I don't know if the egg sac is absorbed or not! I let them do that. This could take hours so deep breaths!