Possible secondary condition in addition to chronic round worm infection

[humminbird94]

Draining all that fluid upset her electrolyte balance and abruptly depleted her fluids. If you can get at least half a cup of this solution into her before you got to bed, that would be good enough. Try dipping her beak to give her a taste, then she should drink on her own. She should be back to normal eating and drinking by morning.

She definitely did not want anything just on her own and is having difficulty staying awake. So i am administering via syringe.

 

[azygous]

Do you have Poultry Nutri-drench? If so, squirt some into the mixture.

 

[azygous]

She isn't sleeping. She's weak from loss of fluids and is sinking fast.

 

[humminbird94]

She isn't sleeping. She's weak from loss of fluids and is sinking fast.
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I've given her a little over half cup of the mixture at this point via syringe. I've let her rest a few times. She's responsive when moved around a lot, but is obviously very fatigued keep eyes closed most of the time, but she's still with us. Should I be mashing her food and try to get it into a syringe at this point? Or at least some way of getting the nutrients of her regular feed?

 

[humminbird94]

She's still with us. I'm going to let her rest for a few hours and come back and give her more mixture and some watery mashed feed via syringe. If I can't get her through till morning, the vet will be in the office. Is there anything I should ask them to do / suggest they do? Since she's obviously in shock.

Also, she is continuing to drain this whole evening (going on 12 hours since left vet), which means she is already filling up with fluid because they said they completely drained her.
Is there a way to stop the draining? i worry that's continuing to put her in shock.

 

[azygous]

Infection from the draining is also a risk. So, I would ask the vet to start her on an antibiotic. Yes, she's in shock, and the continuing draining is a bad sign. She's likely survived so far because of your stellar care and love.

Continue to syringe fluids as long as she is too weak to drink. This is a case where tube feeding would be so much easier on the both of you. Ask the vet to sell you a feeding kit and to show you how to insert the tube. It's just like syringing only the tube stays in until you finish feeding.

 

[coach723]

The slow draining is from the initial puncture, and it's often better to let it drain slowly that way rather than take a whole bunch really fast. The draining will sometimes make them feel better for a while as it relieves the pressure in the abdomen, but it will recur since the underlying condition is still there. It could be infection, a cancer, or organ failure, those are the most common causes of ascites, and the heart is failing. You may be able to get her stabilized now, but the long term prognosis is likely poor.

 

[humminbird94]

Infection from the draining is also a risk. So, I would ask the vet to start her on an antibiotic. Yes, she's in shock, and the continuing draining is a bad sign. She's likely survived so far because of your stellar care and love.

Continue to syringe fluids as long as she is too weak to drink. This is a case where tube feeding would be so much easier on the both of you. Ask the vet to sell you a feeding kit and to show you how to insert the tube. It's just like syringing only the tube stays in until you finish feeding.

She prescribed tylosin. Which I have been giving her in the mixture the last 14 hours. But she just spoke with an exotic bird specialist out of LSU when she got to the office the morning and he recommended to hold off on the antibiotic at the moment because 1. There's likely not infection 2. The antibiotic may be too hard on her system right now to recover.

I'm heading over to her office now. There's a way to "put subcutaneous fluid" in via catheter, and her bird vet forum is recommended this.

I'll ask her about a feed tube kit!

 

[humminbird94]

The slow draining is from the initial puncture, and it's often better to let it drain slowly that way rather than take a whole bunch really fast. The draining will sometimes make them feel better for a while as it relieves the pressure in the abdomen, but it will recur since the underlying condition is still there. It could be infection, a cancer, or organ failure, those are the most common causes of ascites, and the heart is failing. You may be able to get her stabilized now, but the long term prognosis is likely poor.

Do you have any experience with the hormones suppressor injection? It's a little thing that goes under the skin that stops future ovulation.
I mentioned it to her yesterday because I'd read about it.
The exotic bird vet she spoke with this morning recommended it as a possible solution.

 

[humminbird94]

She prescribed tylosin. Which I have been giving her in the mixture the last 14 hours. But she just spoke with an exotic bird specialist out of LSU when she got to the office the morning and he recommended to hold off on the antibiotic at the moment because 1. There's likely not infection 2. The antibiotic may be too hard on her system right now to recover.

I'm heading over to her office now. There's a way to "put subcutaneous fluid" in via catheter, and her bird vet forum is recommended this.

I'll ask her about a feed tube kit!

Do you have any experience with the hormones suppressor injection? It's a little thing that goes under the skin that stops future ovulation.

I mentioned it to her yesterday because I'd read about it.

The exotic bird vet she spoke with this morning recommended it as a possible solution.