Post mortem - *graphic* 3 massive lash eggs found

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Woobsie, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. Woobsie

    Woobsie Songster

    I have a flock of around 65 hens, a mix of whatever I could order as layers from TSC in Canada and some barnyard mixes. This spring will have been 5 years since I raised my first batch and some are so dear to my heart. Many were lap pets.
    This fall I have lost 4 of some of my very favourites and one of them, Daisy, I even took to the vet over Christmas to try to see what was wrong exactly in a desperate and very expensive attempt to save her.
    Daisy, had an xray done and they could identify a mass which they said was cancer but it wasn't I am realizing. (The vets here are not helpful at all.)
    Today I did a post mortem (sorry, this is my first try at one, I was desperate to know what has been going on, sorry for the graphic pics :/) on Annabelle who died this evening and I could feel a huge mass inside in the same area my Daisy had hers. Neither felt like a stuck egg but rather firm. Annabelles only symptoms were purple comb and seemingly lower appetite. But her purple comb has been going on all fall. Daisy looked like she was egg bound about a week before she passed and was seemingly healthy leading up to then, though possibly had lost a bit of weight.
    So after doing a post mortem on Annabelle I wanted to share with you all what was wrong with Annabelle and no doubt Daisy and possibly another of my old girls that seems fine now but I fear may not be in the coming months.
    These 3 lash eggs were all in Amnabelle's oviduct in different parts of it. Is this caused by salpingitis? Or is this internal laying?
    Daisy and Annabelle and the one I lost just weeks before unfortunately were all from a hatchery through TSC in Canada and were in the very same first batch.
    I've seen a lash egg once or twice in the laying boxes but do they all get stuck? Why didn't they pass? Is there anything that can be done while they are alive to help these ladies?
    I am so done with hatchery production hens 20180111_194252.jpg 20180111_194252.jpg 20180111_193642.jpg 20180111_193701.jpg

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  2. lazy gardener

    lazy gardener Crossing the Road

    Nov 7, 2012
    Wow. I much prefer to hatch my own, or heritage breeds.
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  3. AmazingRachel

    AmazingRachel Songster

    Mar 10, 2017
    Westchester, NY
    It could have been cancer since salpingitis just means the inflammation of the oviduct. A vet that I went to that specializes in avian and exotic veterinary science told me that 90% of the chickens cases she sees has to do with reproductive system problems such as ovarian cancer (on an interesting note, researchers use hens do study ovarian cancer in humans).
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  4. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General

    So sorry for your losses. Those are probably from salpingitis, but it's possible that she had cancer too. I have some good salpingitis links that I'll post when I get back on the computer (on iPad now).
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  5. Stayc

    Stayc Crowing

    May 18, 2017
    Keysville Virginia
    So sorry for your losses :hugs
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  6. Woobsie

    Woobsie Songster

    I wanted to add that my flock was affected with mycoplasma gallisepticum. This was before I knew anything about why noone should ever take in adult chickens when you already have am established flock. Hindsight is 20/20 isn't it.
    I had 1 large outbreak of mycoplasma 3 years ago which tylan was able to nip in the bud then a small one 2 years ago. My thoughts are that the MG caused the salpingitis and the hatchery hens who are older are all.dying of the same things but symptoms are differing. So many regrets. If I could take back the day I brought that rogue chicken home that infected everyone this may not have happened. Ugh.
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  7. ChickNanny13

    ChickNanny13 Crossing the Road

    Jun 23, 2013
    The Big Island/Hawaii
    Sorry for your loss :( Thank you for sharing, I'm still learning & want to know what to watch for with my girls.
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  8. I’m so sorry. Please don’t beat yourself up. Thank you for sharing.
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  9. coach723

    coach723 Crowing

    Feb 12, 2015
    North Florida
    I'm very sorry for your losses. I've lost several to this, all hatchery birds, my heritage breed birds and my own hatches have not had issues with it, at least so far. Certainly not a scientific study, just my experience. Here are some links, and there is somewhat conflicting information about effectiveness of treatment. I have treated some when it appeared to be fairly early on, and have not personally had any success, they succumb eventually. You can search for even more info.
  10. Ruralhideaway

    Ruralhideaway Crowing

    Sep 21, 2017
    Upstate NY
    You've done all you can for them, no one was born a chicken expert after all. I had many birds years ago and wad not at all educated about them, made many mistakes. More than you I'm certain. You are learning and doing your best. Sorry about the health difficulties. Be at peace.

    Thanks for sharing this info, important to know these things.
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