Post office throwing boxes

[wolftracks]

Here's some of the reasons I started the Egg Train

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=4234101#p4234101

We had a great start and then my husband died in July and I was kind of out of it (still am) so it was hard to get it started up again. The people that had jumped in and tried to help were no longer around to help me get it back off the ground, but it is still working and does work, but not as well as I had hoped by now. It would be so nice to build it big and have it going all the time with lots more help

The lists of members can be used for contacts if you see someone in the areas you need to for transport. Winter wasn't a good time for it. Bad weather and people just not going many places.

I can't travel a lot, but so far I think I've done most of the transporting in California but only what I'm able to do. The Mid West has some awesome people who have connected and help eachother.

I have a problem with leaving my home. When I came up with this, my husband was just so excited that I wanted to start getting out and going places and I knew he'd be right there with me, but now I'm sort of grounded to a point. I don't really travel by car over long distances. I do go to the SF Bay Area and out towards Sacramento, so it I try and help when I can.

I'd like to get this going full force since it's the time of year that people are going on vacations and traveling more, so read up on it through my links in my signature and if anyone would like to help reorganize to make it run smoother, please let me know. Terry is no longer a contact. She was there to help me get it started, but had a problem here on the boards and left. I miss her!

I once watched the UPS driver, kick my next door neighbor's flat screen and DVD players up his driveway and leave them half way up his walkway.

I used to sell Avon and if they delivered 20 boxes about half would be crushed, tossed all over my porch, tossed in the flowerbeds, thrown on their sides or upside down. Once FedEx started delivering, I got zero crushed boxes. I lost customers from the damaged shipments and by the time I got replacements they would cancel, so I complained to UPS and to Avon for it.

Still like my Egg Train though.

 

[Patchesnposies]

Wolftracks, I am so sorry to learn that you lost your husband so recently. Not even a year, it must be terribly hard on you. I am about to go read the link you posted. I just wanted to give you a cyber

You are stronger than you think you are....but it is okay to be weak when you need to be.

 

[Sierra pachie bars]

I did tell them they were hatching eggs and it was written on the box. Someone must have just peed in her cherrios because the woman was just a turd. She also told me they Did NOT insure eggs. I did package well , but if they are going go play soccer with the package not much I can do. I mean she even said we are going to throw and toss your package. Her exact words were you package is going to be tossed and thrown big time and that is just how they handle everything.

 

[Luke13:34]

I've been reading this thread with fear and trepidation as I was waiting on my first batch of shipped eggs. I was thrilled when they arrived today in PERFECT condition. All 14 eggs. Can't wait to get them in the bator tomorrow. Kudos to all the USPS employees from OH to CT who got my eggs to me safely.

 

[DadandJoJo]

wow reading this post makes me feel pretty lucky I bid and won 2 dozen eggs both where shipped through the mail the boxes were labeled pretty good (probally good thing) all 26 (24+2xtras) hand delivered to the house by my postman (not related) maybe its the cookies at x-mas

 

[aveca]

I am so sorry about the loss of your husband..what a nice idea..someday it might come down to that where we help each other somehow. even send them out on small planes destined for certian areas an have new owners pick them up there ..I dont know just what the answer is..but If I ran a bissiness like that I wouldnt be in biz long..

I dont mean to really pound on the PO but after you spend a full year working on an art peice and taking weeks to prepare to ship it across country to have it wind up in peices...would you ship that way ever again? I dont..I now use brown WHOS INSURANCE IS AUTOMATIC.. and time after time and once in a while someone gets a great hatch from PO shipping ..same type shipping every time, thats not good enough..Ive seen little kids crying and heartbroken because thier special show eggs arrived followed directions for hatching eggs shipped through mail only to loose them quitting, detached air cells , blood rings ect...

for anyone just getting in shipped eggs this advise below really does help a lot. but no guarentee.. it does seem to help.



INCUBATION TECHNIQUES:



All eggs in nature are incubated flat. You'll never see a hen set them on the small end and turn them. By laying them flat and rolling them 180 degrees each time you’re making everything inside the egg shift completely. This complete shift is called “Making the Embryo Exercise”. This will give you a stronger chick when it comes time to hatch.

The only time I'll incubate eggs in the upright position is when I get eggs shipped in. Then I incubate them in the upright position for 7 to 10 days without turning them at all and then turn them for the remainder of the 18 day period. This stabilizes the air cell and gives the embryo a better chance to start growing and get strong. You should let them rest at least 12 hours prior to incubation when you use this system. When shipped eggs that have air cell damage, it's best to have them incubate in the upright position the entire time of incubation just tipping back and forth after the first 7 to 10 days. I've taken eggs that have the air cells damaged so bad that they'll shift all the way down the side of the egg and I've gotten a good percentage of them to hatch doing it this way. This is my idea from getting hatching eggs shipped in over the years and then nothing hatching because of air cell damage. I just studied the eggs and opened tons of them that didn't hatch and came to the conclusion that to get them to hatch you first had to get the embryo growing building up strength. That was always the biggest battle. That's what blood rings are in shipped eggs. The embryo starts and then dies because it can't attach itself properly in the egg. Run both of these incubator with the air vents wide open. This will keep the air healthier in the incubator and keep the humidity lower. Only go by the size of the air cell in the egg to gauge the humidity in your incubator. Some eggs dry down easier than others. Marans eggs will dry down slower than Leghorn eggs. This has something to do with the egg shell. But if you go by standard operating directions and run your incubators according to the incubator directions you'll have poor hatches. You have to shoot for getting the air cell size to grow up to 1/3 of the egg by the time the chicks are supposed to hatch. The smaller the air cell the wetter the chicks will be. Small air cells will lead to a lot of chicks pipping and then drowning in the eggs.

As far as the humidity goes like I said, just watch the air cells. They're what will determine if the eggs are incubating right. Sticky chicks are caused by way to much moisture in the egg. What you have to think about is all the white of the egg has to be gone when that chick is ready to pip out. Then what happens ,if it is still there, is as soon as air gets into the egg when they pip through, the white of the egg acts like glue and as they're pipping it's drying and eventually it plugs their nostrils up and they smother. I have all my vents wide open and I don't add any water until the eggs are pipping. I set my Redwoods up so when I start them I fill the water pans full of the hottest water that comes out of the faucet. Then let them run for a couple of hours to seal up the wood. Then set your temps. Once the Redwoods are sealed then the moisture evaporating out of the eggs seems to be enough until they start pipping. Then, when the eggs start pipping, fill the water pans with straight hot water again. I do this even with my waterfowl eggs. They hatch so much better this way

 

[Cass]

I'm not sure if I have replied on this thread....so here goes.

Not all mail is handled by Postal Employees. Postal Employees are wonderful and well paid. MOST mail that is going from one post office to another is handled by independant contractors. Independant contractors bid on the "run" and the lowest bidder get the job. THEN that person hires someone to DO the run. So you are 3 tiers out from Postal Employee. Some of the smaller boxes are put in mail bags and left on the dock for loading. ALL mail bags are thrown. It's the fastest way to load them. Bigger boxes are hand loaded, which means thrown into the truck from 10 - 15 feet out, maybe longer if the truck is empty. Mark it "fragile" and some (not all) contractors, who feel they are underpaid, will throw the box extra hard in case it's insured to "get back at the post office" because now the post office has to pay the insurance claim.

Several of my family members were independant contractors and/or worked for an independant contractor for decades. I can tell story after story about football games on loading docks with your package marked "fragile" and drivers having a lousy day slamming doors down on packages that didn't get totally into the bed of the truck. Oh, and don't forget the truck that rolled over on the thruway and wound up being towed the rest of the way to Syracuse. (It was a little late that day

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So you can yell, scream, malign, slander and denegrate the Postal System, but until someone changes how the mail moves, thereby controling who touches the mail, it's not going to change much.

I love Postal Employees. For the most part they are wonderful people. Contractors moving the mail? I wouldn't give you 2 cents for any of them (now that my family isn't doing that kind of work any more)

 

[wolftracks]

Oh the there are destination threads each month and we do have a pilot!

Thank you for the well wishes. It is hard and nothing I want anyone to go through.

 

[dreamer4217]

I have found in general Customer service has gone down hill big time. I remember when you walk into a store some one said hi to you and asked if you needed help and if you said yes they helped you not told you I will get you some one I waited the other day in a feed store for 10 minutes before I finally dropped everything in my hands on the floor and walked out. I hate it when people don't do there jobs just chaps my hide. As far as the post office I don't know what ot tell you it keeps getting more expensive for poorer service to. I am expecting some chickens in the mail from Iowa and Am worried about how they will be handled and if they will even be alive when they get here. I asked my mail man to day how i would get them and he said I would have to go get them from the post office and he doesn't think it will be the one here in riverside. I am trying ot replace some of my chickens my Neighbors dogs got and So there coming in the mail. my regular mail man is great and come any holiday I give him a card and something to eat I.E Candy Cookies and stuff like that the fill in guy I hate he is horrible I have seen him throw a box out of his truck onto my porch instead of getting out and placing in on the porch. It said Fragile. it was some glass figurs my great grandma had made. they were a little broken but how do you put a price on something like that

 

[Tbird84]

This has my interest. How do you go about getting your item shipped in this tub?
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