Post Phoenix Pics Please

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Bentley

how old is your book you got that from?
I know for a fact bb red is standard in both large fowl and bantam fowl, pretty sure I heard white were recently excepted too but would have to dig in a little to be sure.

well maybe not LF, that's crazy

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

will get you some pics Amanda.

Think I may have shown you the hens I'm using. I made some cuckoo and some barred birchen hens last year. And have the phoenix x flytie roos from Toni I'm starting to use over them now. Got the start last year on the silver barred thanks to Toni too, and plan to start the crele work in them now.
Speaking of which that is a nice start you got going there. I'd be interested in them for sure. Would help cut a year or two off my project with them if you still have an extra cockerel, especially if he's small.

Would love to see them Aubrey.. Crossing my flyties with my largefowl bbred cockerel feathered hens this year.. Should be amazing..

 

[dvang3]

He is split peacomb to straight comb.. Throws both in the offspring when bred to straight comb hens. Right now, I am focused on solid blue or black roosters, not comb type..

Is Comb easy to fix?
Well I guess it's easier than color

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

If all goes as planned, we'll be ready by this spring. Your non-barred bantams, what colors are they? I think adding them to some of the birds would increase saddle density as well as length if I am thinking correctly. I know a guy that has some birds that he got as fly-tie birds but he crossed them with sumatra and leghorn and everything else, so much so that they look like a hatchery style phoenix with thinner saddle

Michael, not sure which breed you mean. If you are talking just about flytie type birds, all of mine are barred.

But on the bantam phoenix I plan to use them in I've got just about all colors, some just more than others.
all the duckwings, all the gingers, and birchens, barred versions, blues, black, white, pyles, a start on mottled , dun, dun and blue versions of most of the previous ones, all in all around 20- 30 different ones, havent counted in a while.

But yes you are thinking correctly, it does seem to really help in density or over all amount of feathering seems like from what little time I have had to work with them.

 

[onagadori]

will get you some pics Amanda.

Think I may have shown you the hens I'm using. I made some cuckoo and some barred birchen hens last year. And have the phoenix x flytie roos from Toni I'm starting to use over them now. Got the start last year on the silver barred thanks to Toni too, and plan to start the crele work in them now.
Speaking of which that is a nice start you got going there. I'd be interested in them for sure. Would help cut a year or two off my project with them if you still have an extra cockerel, especially if he's small.

I have one cockerel left, he is listed for sale here on byc and on my webpage..

 

[onagadori]

Is Comb easy to fix?
Well I guess it's easier than color

Yes it is easier than color to fix. However, these are from my American Longtail project and some of them lay blue eggs which is a characteristic I am breeding for. It is very hard to separate the peacomb gene from the blue egg gene..

Here are a couple pics of the blue cockerel. He is young yet, but color looks fantastic..! Peacombed however, but I don't care too much about that. Most of the hens are straight combed so he will be enough to clean up color..




He is technically an American Longtail.. ( a breed I created here)

 

[onagadori]

More American Longtails.. Blue creams..

 

[Bentley]

Bentley

how old is your book you got that from?
I know for a fact bb red is standard in both large fowl and bantam fowl, pretty sure I heard white were recently excepted too but would have to dig in a little to be sure.

The 2010 edition.

 

[Bentley]

The 2010 edition.

The 2010 edition. I will check my new Bantam Standard tomorrow to see if the ABA accepted them because they routinely accept new varieties quicker. But the 2010 APA SOP is the newest edition and I haven't seen any new updates since this book was published. Other non recognized varieties can still be shown, however, they can not win beyond Best of Variety until they are officially recognized and accepted by the APA

 

[Bentley]

Is Comb easy to fix?
Well I guess it's easier than color

Comb is usually much easier to fix than color, as long as you still have the correct comb type in the breed to work with. If you have to cross outside the breed to bring in the new (correct) comb type then obviously that is very tough to fix. Of course this depends upon if you are fixing and existing comb type or if you have the wrong come type all together and even then it depends upon whether the correct comb is dominant or recessive etc.