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My personal opinion is as Tom says. You first build the barn then paint it. There is a bit of a color difference in breast color to wing color. But not by much. This male has better color then my #2 cock that I bought from Terry Britt. He appears to have good size too.
Tom wrote: You should not breed Buff colored birds with extreme variances in shades of Buff; that is a dark male to a light female. Likewise I would warn against using a male that is uneven from hackle to shoulder/wing bay, to saddle and tail. While it’s not always possible to have an absolutely even shaded male, I try not to use a bird that isn’t even. When selecting a female to go with a male I attempt to match the overall color of the female to the breast color of the male. This was explained to me by Alex Duffy.

Jim this is an article in last years Bantam club that Tom wrote. Dan H is an excellent source for many ideas in breeding Buffs and for just breeding poultry in general. He is a legend and I try to suck up ALOT of info he volunteers to me.
 
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I think Tom mentions it is inbetween the Orange and Yellow Buff. He makes a point that it is a personal choice. I prefer a richer darker color Buff cause as a bird ages that will lighten up. But, in my case I have many who are not near what I want. Last year I took an uneven male to some even hens and got some that are closer to what my ideal goal would be for color. I would focus on building the barn first. A wide chest, back all the way to the tail, a huge head, and deep from front to back.
These pics I just took. And color is no where close to what I want, but you can see the width in the back. That trait is what separate the Hatchery stock from the exhibition stock. Too many are narrow with little depth which tends to make a hen more likely to become egg bound. A friend I know bought 10 hatchery hens 3 years ago, half died due to egg bound.

Hope this pic shows how much more width in the back that I am hoping to keep.
The two on the right have the type of width I like to see in my future generations of birds. Now I just need to get some more even paint over these two barns.
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Dan Honour has written several books. He tried to help us all last year by offering them here. There was no interest. He has given me the chance to offer his books to sell on my EBAY account. I will be including a very rare, like maybe the only time in a long time coming some of my younger Black Orp's eggs as a FREE GIFT to the winner. I NEVER have sold ANY of my Black Orp eggs. This will be a first for me to help promote Dan's books. I will have just a couple of EBAY auctions for his book sales, and each auction will be offering 8 to 10 eggs as FREE GIFTS to the winning bidder. ALL proceeds will go back to Dan. I highly recommend you who like to learn to breed Exhibition quality to try and get these books. The books will be starting out at the cost I initially paid Dan. Anything above starting price will be funneled back to Dan. And I will do this only for a couple of auctions seeing I want one of each book for my personal Poultry library that I am just starting. Hope you all will be interested in learning from a Master breeder like Dan like I do.
KORgo is #2 cock and some will be from him
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And this girl
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You HOPE to get one or two that look like my SERPICO
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Ya'll have some really nice birds, but I am surprised that nobody knows what color the chick I posted a few pages back is going to be. Guess I will just have to wait and see when it grows up. knowledge is a closely guarded secret around here...
 
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I did a half Black and half Buff. He is almost a Silver looking bird. IF I knew I would say. I guess you will be the one to educate us all how they turn out. Who knows you may have a Chocy looking bird.
 
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I did a half Black and half Buff. He is almost a Silver looking bird. IF I knew I would say. I guess you will be the one to educate us all how they turn out. Who knows you may have a Chocy looking bird.

got a pic of that? I am pretty sure this has been hatched out a lot.
 
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I did a half Black and half Buff. He is almost a Silver looking bird. IF I knew I would say. I guess you will be the one to educate us all how they turn out. Who knows you may have a Chocy looking bird.

got a pic of that? I am pretty sure this has been hatched out a lot.

Oh yeah, I have pics of him. I used him back to Blacks & Blues, producing some very nice Blacks & Blue Orps. And also making some unique looking mutts. When you take these back to each other you never know what can pop out. Lots of recessive genes in play.
One thing I learned by using him, is that about every 10 eggs or so laid by the purebred hens will throw a common look, then like a shuffling of the deck of cards, you will get a totally different look. I believe this is the same in breeding any pair of birds. Even if pure the switching of which parent throws a given trait will flip flop. I hatched out about 30 Blues from my purebred hen. She too is a splash. With lite eyes. I NEVER got a chicken from her with a lite eye. My reason to use the BO/Australorp hatchery mix is the BO side is from a very high end Exhibition breeder. So, the genetics is there to add traits that my Black Orp line needed, like width and depth in type. Not only it worked, I had a Blue pullet win BV, and she had to beat another very well known Orp breeder's huge Blue hen to do it.

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