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           I wasn't intending to argue either. Was responding to the collective idea of the Cochin/Orpington similarity that gets expressed now and again. If timing or wording had anyone feeling singled out or picked on that wasn't the idea and I'm sorry if that may have happened here.   I will say that being a show winner does not mean that any one bird would have the approval of even a decent percentage of the judges or breeders. This bird here could be an example. Even to my eye he is sort of a sad sack in comparison to other UK winners who may have been bred to the same ideals, even by the same breeder, but pulled it off differently and, in my opinion, way better. Shows may or may not be an indication of quality and breed type. The judges, like the exhibitors, are only human after all. And General Licensed judges often end up trying to evaluate breeds that they are not completely at ease and familiar with. Like all of us in our endeavors they do their best but that doesn't always mean they get it right.

In fact I did think you were singling out my comment and yes, it is sort of a sad sack compared to so many others I've seen. But at the moment I couldn't find pictures of the literal basketballs with heads I was thinking of! :lol:
 
My buff orp got attaked be a fox last thursday and it ripped her back skin off down to her legs. S?he is doing great though and i got an egg from her yesterday. I couldn't believe she started laying this quickly.
 
I feel like I have a few hens that come pretty close to this type.

This is the hen from my avatar.



ETA: Her tail doesn't seem to be as "rounded" as the rooster pictured above. I prefer the look of her tail.
Jeremy,
I too love this girl. Her skull and wonderful eye particularly. She is certainly not "bunny tailed" because she has stiffer main tail feathers. So many of the English birds seem to have lost those, as have many of our bantam Wyandottes.A bit less bottom fluff around her hocks and legs would please me more though as it would make her underline more round instead of coming to a "V". I got a pair of young English Buffs from Marc Sacre after having seen your, Julie, and Joy's birds.You all are breeding some nice birds.
 
I am getting alot of Cuckoos and some are coming from this fella when taken to a pair of Black hens.


MAYBE I should take him to some Buff hens to see IF I get Lemon Cuckoos?





One of his kids



ALSO I hatched out a Columbian. I believe he is from BUSTOFF taken to a Dun Splash hen

 
there was a line of orps a long time ago called ERMIN..liKe the kings coat..they looked exactly like columbian..they were popular for a little while then fell off :the chart..kind of dissappeard altogether..you never saw or heard of them again..theycalled them ermin because they felt that orpingtons were too special to be called anything other than something royal..it is in one of those old 1800 ebooks free for download..to quote the book, they were to be called ermin..not columbian..first one i have seen..as they are pretty much long gone..maybe you could bring them back..not sure if anyone across the pond or in australia ever kept them going..that is a very attractive bird with the leg color and the beak looks like it has the white also or greyish white.makes them the most attractive white bird alive to me..like the whites.

there was somone trying to re-create them in an australian forum using coronation sussex and white orp? cant remember thier combo to create the ermin or re-create it...you accidently got a sport of what they were knocking themselves out for.they were going on about a coronation something is to be called a lavander ERMIN orpington..cant remember all of it.color is way over my head.i just know what is correct in the simple colors like blk or white....but the story and the stunning bird stuck with me.if they are any out there, they are beyond rare...........they never acheived what you just did by accident..if you have a few around, you might be the only person to have them..thou i could be wrong...i dont see anyone talking about them except in that australian site..and they pretty much gave up..
 
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The fella is a little bit frizzled up since he was not use to his new pen mates (some Buff Orps). He has a nice large head. I asked Krys on the Yahoo Orpington Group which variety would be best to take him too. She may awswer sometime soon. I would guess take him to Whites. BUT MAYBE also try him on some Blacks. Harry always speculated that BUSTOFF had Columbian in him. And I guess this fella answers the question. I could always ask Dan H and or a couple of the genetics guys on this site.
 
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The fella is a little bit frizzled up since he was not use to his new pen mates (some Buff Orps). He has a nice large head. I asked Krys on the Yahoo Orpington Group which variety would be best to take him too. She may awswer sometime soon. I would guess take him to Whites. BUT MAYBE also try him on some Blacks. Harry always speculated that BUSTOFF had Columbian in him. And I guess this fella answers the question. I could always ask Dan H and or a couple of the genetics guys on this site.

Bill, I'd breed him to a few good Black hens. The first gen will be all Black (theoretically) and you should start seeing some Columbian marked birds by the second generation, by breeding brother to sister and by breeding the daughters back to their father.
 

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