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[galanie]

I have no idea where to start learning about color genetics....I've tried a couple of the genetic calculators but I can't find one that allows for Buff as a color.

I've got my Splash Orp rooster over my buff orpingtons and I'm just curious what color the offspring are going to be?
My sister tried some calculators and the first one said they'd all be blue, the second said they'd all be red and the third said they'd all be copper marans....

Any advice or guidance...do they make color genetics for dummies or something?

No. They don't. But your question has been asked plenty before. What happens with a mix such as yours is, you'll end up with God Only Knows What. This is for two reasons. One is, that Buff has a lot of oddball genetics in it that aren't predictable always with the genetic calcultors. And two, Any offspring out of a Splash has a chance to go two ways when mixed with something that isn't black: Blue, or Black. Mix in the Buff who-knows-what-really-cause-they-aren't-completely-understood genes, and most likely (note I say "most likely" and not "for sure" - because you could get lots of other unpredictable things too) you'll get a part blue or black and part buff something.

People don't usually answer you when you ask this cause it's frowned upon to indiscriminately mix colors this way. If you are aiming for a "utility" flock though, no harm done.

 

[aveca]

Johnn, you make me want to move to the UK with every picture! Bella is still our Love though.

Dont you love those sarah? Now thats a buff orpington color even all over..magnificent birds. big freight trains in the front..

 

[aveca]

I missed it!! What will pop out of the Clevengers?

a renie rooster.... once in a while a nice one pops out..

 

[galanie]

Johnn, you make me want to move to the UK with every picture! Bella is still our Love though.

Dont you love those sarah? Now thats a buff orpington color even all over..magnificent birds. big freight trains in the front..

I do! Every one he posts is just.. It's not fair! That's what it is!

 

[aveca]

Johnn, you make me want to move to the UK with every picture! Bella is still our Love though.

John, is that big stripey one a maran? looks like cuckoo maran..

Bella stole our hearts John...those hens are just such beautiful color..You just need to get a good rooster to go with those lovley girls so that we can import some..

 

[WRVgirl]

No. They don't. But your question has been asked plenty before. What happens with a mix such as yours is, you'll end up with God Only Knows What. This is for two reasons. One is, that Buff has a lot of oddball genetics in it that aren't predictable always with the genetic calcultors. And two, Any offspring out of a Splash has a chance to go two ways when mixed with something that isn't black: Blue, or Black. Mix in the Buff who-knows-what-really-cause-they-aren't-completely-understood genes, and most likely (note I say "most likely" and not "for sure" - because you could get lots of other unpredictable things too) you'll get a part blue or black and part buff something.

People don't usually answer you when you ask this cause it's frowned upon to indiscriminately mix colors this way. If you are aiming for a "utility" flock though, no harm done.

I'm actually just giving the eggs away, because all of my hens roost together with the rooster and if someone wants some eggs for a little egg laying flock, I don't see any reason to store eggs until they go bad when I can be giving them away to someone who could actually use them [either for a school hatching project or just to have a few birds in the yard]

I only ask because I'm curious what they could possibly look like.

My BBS are a different story, there's only so many ways that can go.

Thanks for answering though. For the record, have I asked this before? I don't remember doing so, but if I did please accept my most sincere apologies for repeating.

 

[thedragonlady]

I was told by several of my poultry friends to try and make em like they did back in those Clevenger days.
More like this:

Bill,

The question begs to be asked..."Why aren't THEY doing just that?" All I see are Rock tops, ewe necks, and loose wings.

 

[thedragonlady]

I missed it!! What will pop out of the Clevengers?

Duh ! Like you don't know? Those cute dewlaps are a great clue. The Clevenger birds fit the 1915 Standard, not matter what Walt's photo shows. His bird was photographed from below.Look at the photos of the birds from Europe, not from England. In England the judges are NOT adhering to the British Standard in placing birds. The birds from Europe, and Russia are. Not surprising , our judges don't adhere to the SOP either.

 

[Don Chandler]

Duh ! Like you don't know? Those cute dewlaps are a great clue. The Clevenger birds fit the 1915 Standard, not matter what Walt's photo shows. His bird was photographed from below.Look at the photos of the birds from Europe, not from England. In England the judges are NOT adhering to the British Standard in placing birds. The birds from Europe, and Russia are. Not surprising , our judges don't adhere to the SOP either.

Duh, I didn't know a chicken had a dewlap. I think in the standard that is called a keel.

 

[lildinkem]

Bill,

The question begs to be asked..."Why aren't THEY doing just that?" All I see are Rock tops, ewe necks, and loose wings.

I bought a "Reliable Poultry Journal from 1911". Even back then they already identified the UK as a separate look compared to the APA's SOP. Since then, as in dog shows, people will breed in what is winning shows. IF I correctly cull I can make Orps more resemble those in these older pics.