Post Pics Of Orps/ Orpingtons HERE

[scbatz33]

I do not even want to know who is from who OR it may taint my view on who to use. I seem to be doing okay, and certainly have room for much improvement. I rather not mention either UK or APA lines when breeding. What they do not know won't hurt me.

I'm feeling this way myself. It seems to me, that if I am showing the best version/type bird, then what lines it comes from, how I got there shouldn't be relevant.

If we are trying to get the best "orpington" orp possible and the bird is a good reflection of the standard(which IMO, most of the birds I'm seeing that are "american" are not even close to meeting the APA's own standard) then a mix of lines, bringing in new and different lines are necessary any way.

I guess I just need to make a giant blow up of that pic and put it in each of the bird pens so the birds have something to aspire to!

 

[lildinkem]

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I would agree. I go by pics mostly. Now that I had one Buff do well, I can use her as a guide. Maybe my best bird too. And that helped me decide how much I like these Buffs in type, size, combs. There is a young Black who got some sickle feathers yanked out the other nite who is in the pic with my nice White pullet, he dodged the coon but lost some feathers. I think he maybe the best I produced this year in my Black program. But I hatched out every single egg from last year. I still have a dozen more younger Black cockerels growing out from last fall. I thought many were culls till I went out yesterday and looked them over, and hate the thought of saying I told myself so, DO NOT CULL EARLY!! I have 2 that look like Serpico did at the 4 to 5 month ole age.
A pic of a few of them

 

[M To The Maxx]

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

Years ago at the Tulsa State Fair a fellow filed a complaint with the show officials because the Super Grand Champion, Champion LF, Champion English, Best of Breed and Best of Variety WAS NOT a White Orpington, but a White Plymouth Rock. Owner was Terry Britt. Terry admitted that the boy was part Rock. However, it looked like an Orp and was properly colored. It may have been part Rock, but it met the Standard for Orpington in Type. How you get there is not relevant. The importance is getting there!

J. Ralph Brazelton had some of, if not the best, Orpingtons I have ever seen. Both LF and Bantams. Yet he would trapnest and only hatch from hens who layed 200+ eggs a year. The Orpington is a dual purpose breed. We can not lose either type or production. Best advise I could give an Orp breeder is get a good mentor. Someone who has been around awhile. Preferably a judge. lildinkem has a good mentor in Doug Akers. I have a handful I will call when I need to.

At Shawnee Terry had some "culls" for sale. Wished I had the extra money that day! He sold some trios for $150. He could have got $500 on a BYC auction! It is nice when the Master Breeders will share their stock with others.

Went to feed my Buffs the other day and realized they had changed! The gals are really starting to look good in type and size. Their color is almost perfect. The male is getting huge!!!!! His type is good. His color is still a little poor, but is still coming out of molt. At about 10 months old they really look good!

The blacks I am not sure about. Their parents are heritagehabitatfarms (he sold them to a 4H member who traded them to me). Their great-grandparents were from Cecil Moore. So I am hoping they go ahead and develope well. (The kid was feeding a 7.5% all grain protein). We have them on an ADM animal 20% protein. They are actually starting to look like Orps.

 

[lildinkem]

Speaking of Whites, here is a pic that was pasted into my original edition of Hubbard's Poultry Secrets book that just arrived from Dan. A very original book, with a hand written "presented to Dr Richard Harwood" by Charles Henry himself

Thought this would be a nice time to share this pic
A White a hundred years ago

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

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Why can't the Birchen Orp get in the SOP? All you need is 5 breeders who like the Birchen to stick with you for at least five years. It can be done.

 

[lildinkem]

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Why can't the Birchen Orp get in the SOP? All you need is 5 breeders who like the Birchen to stick with you for at least five years. It can be done.

I don't have the interest in making them into a new standard. Just the novelty offering something different. Even then it will take 5 years to make them look fantastic.
Most people are not in a position to show. I do like some other varieties, but see the most pressing needs in making folks want our standards.

 

[turkeybreeder]

anyone have chocolate orphingtons

 

[danielle82]

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Why can't the Birchen Orp get in the SOP? All you need is 5 breeders who like the Birchen to stick with you for at least five years. It can be done.

what about the splash? I'm told splash is not a recognized color, however any one who has a blue cockerel and blue pullet can come out with splashes?

 

[scbatz33]

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Why can't the Birchen Orp get in the SOP? All you need is 5 breeders who like the Birchen to stick with you for at least five years. It can be done.

what about the splash? I'm told splash is not a recognized color, however any one who has a blue cockerel and blue pullet can come out with splashes?

Blue, black, buff and white.