Don't forget Bill that just because a bird comes from the lav project doesn't mean they are all "splits", some don't get the gene and people don't understand that, regardless of who they bought their stock from.
I know what a Lavender is. These 2 cockerels are not Lavenders. I am not saying they have the Lav gene. Were talking about WHERE the "TYPE" comes from. That to me is the question of why they do not look like a pure Orp