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[lildinkem]

Bill: The Imported Buffs may not cross to SOP Buffs the same as the Blacks. Time will tell. I believe Dragon Lady and Renie will be Successful. When it comes to some things Buffs, Blacks and Whites Breed Somewhat Differently.

I totally agree with ya Allen. It may be just adding one trait or two per season till you have it all together. But seeing how nice you make Whites I know you will get it going much faster then most.
Last year my Buffs just did not click. I did not keep one Buff from last year. I got lucky and my $20 Akers Buff cock is making a huge diff in what I have for this season.
Far as using new stock and trying them out with no clue of what to expect, I am blown away how well this Shafe White cock is doing with my Feusting Buff sports and White Wyandottes. Never would have thought I could be so lucky.
I think I am more impressed with my 20 or so Buffs and Whites then my 80 to 100 Blacks I hatched out this year.
This pullet alone will make me a very happy guy come breeding season
She is not perfect but I like much of what she is.

 

[AGAMMARELL]

When you use Good Quality Birds from Good Lines; Sometimes there are Very Good Results but then you have to Fix the Traits you want in a good percentage of the offspring.

 

[aveca]

Bill: The Imported Buffs may not cross to SOP Buffs the same as the Blacks. Time will tell. I believe Dragon Lady and Renie will be Successful. When it comes to some things Buffs, Blacks and Whites Breed Somewhat Differently.

i think its going to be very exciting to see what develops here..Vickie knows what she has in her mind and knows how to get there..i have no doubt Renie will too..you have been at this and know also..i do not feel real confident in it...yet anyway..its like writers block..sometimes im just not sure if im doing the right thing..

 

[thedragonlady]

Bill: The Imported Buffs may not cross to SOP Buffs the same as the Blacks. Time will tell. I believe Dragon Lady and Renie will be Successful. When it comes to some things Buffs, Blacks and Whites Breed Somewhat Differently.

Thank you Mr. Ammarell! I'm certainly going to give it a try. I've had fun breeding Buff before that I had to make. With the nice start I have, and a clue as to what's lurking because I hatched and culled, I think I'm a generation ahead of simply buying birds. Time will tell.

 

[aveca]

The plumage of Orps is important in order to maintain the ideal type/shape of the breed. The feathers should be broad and smooth fitting on the deep body of this breed. The appearance of massiveness should not be achieved by developing extreme length of feathers in the plumage. (this is what appears to be going on in the tail of the Dave K pic...long stringy feathers.) The sides of the body (fluff area) should be comparatively straight with full but not profuse feathering. You should be able to see the profile of the hock.

All English breeds with the exception of the Cornish need to have feathers moderately long and broad., fitting close to the body.

Buff: a medium shade of orange-yellow color with a rich golden cast. Not so intense to look red and not so pale as to look lemon. As an example....the bird in my avatar letting looks washed out .......it was a scan from an analog picture and lost it's brightness, which you will understand. It should look more golden.

Walt

Walt..I want you to know , I did read description, again, and again..When I selected..I went by that..this hen is ready to molt so feathers getting loose, but note, I selected her for feather width....there is a lot of rooster damage right now...I do have a few birds I havnt shown in here also...I sure didnt have a lot to choose from as I always hatch a box of roosters..but I liked a lot of things about her, and I know her lobe is a little too light especially when she lays down..it goes from beet red to very pale pink..My thought was the english are more stable in that area..I thought this hen had enough good things that she was too good to just cull out...Maybe a cross into english might fix things in both..you can see in this pic that her lobes are red..It bothers me when she lays down and they get that light..Its certianly not the hard enamel white , it just gets light.

there is no illustration of black or blue orpington in SOP..there are more than one cornish illustration thou

 

[lildinkem]

When you use Good Quality Birds from Good Lines; Sometimes there are Very Good Results but then you have to Fix the Traits you want in a good percentage of the offspring.

It is wonderful to see so many new folks with Exhibition experience starting to breed Orps. These next few years will make great strides in promoting our breed.
I wish everyone the best in the coming season.

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

Renie'sPeeps your pair of Buff Orpington juveniles are enroute!

 

[Renie'sPeeps]

Thank you.. looking forward to getting them. ")

 

[fowlman01]

Walt..I want you to know , I did read description, again, and again..When I selected..I went by that..this hen is ready to molt so feathers getting loose, but note, I selected her for feather width....there is a lot of rooster damage right now...I do have a few birds I havnt shown in here also...I sure didnt have a lot to choose from as I always hatch a box of roosters..but I liked a lot of things about her, and I know her lobe is a little too light especially when she lays down..it goes from beet red to very pale pink..My thought was the english are more stable in that area..I thought this hen had enough good things that she was too good to just cull out...Maybe a cross into english might fix things in both..you can see in this pic that her lobes are red..It bothers me when she lays down and they get that light..Its certianly not the hard enamel white , it just gets light.

there is no illustration of black or blue orpington in SOP..there are more than one cornish illustration thou

she looks like a good bird and I don't see any reason to cull her either. I can see her legs. It is strange that her lobes would get lighter when she sits down...I have never seen that. The reason why there are no blues or blacks in the SOP is cuz no one wanted to sponsor the illustrations. It kind of surprised me at the time.

Walt

 

[OSUman]

I am studying the rules for the admission of new varieties here is what the bylaws state.

Quote: APA 2009 Yearbook with permission a. A petition for recognition of any breed or variety of any domestic or foreign breed must be sent to the Secretary giving the history of its origin, breeding background, and with facts of an educational nature, all of which shall be preserved in the records of the Association included shall be the proposed name of the breed or variety with a standard for shape, color and weight, written in the same style and format as the Standard and included with the petition, with copyright assigned to the American Poultry Association, Inc. If a breed or variety that has been previously accepted by the American Bantam Association applies for admittance and the description is in conflict with the description which was approved at a proper qualifying meet of the ABA, then the applicant must either adjust the application so that the conflicts are removed or work with the Standard Committee of the ABA to remove the conflict

b. Affidavits shall be included from not less than five breeders stating that they have been the breed or variety for not less than five years and that it produces not less than 50% of all specimens reasonably true to type, color, size and comb.

c. Certificates showing two or more speimens have been exhibited in each class of cocks, hens, cockerels, and pullets in each of the preceding two years at a show officiated by a licensed A.P.A. judge. The Secretary shall contact the judge for his or her confidential opinion of the quality and uniformity.

d, A deposit of a sum sufficient to defray the actual cost of placing the text in the Standard shall be received with the petition, which amount shall be returned in full in case of rejection.

e. The petition will then be referred to the Committee of Standards who shall name a qualifying meet at a designated prominent show to be judged by a licensed A.P.A. judge. Such qualifying meet shall consist of not less than fifty specimens exhibited by at least five exhibitors in all classes of cock, hen, cockerel and pullet.

f. When satisfied of the breed or variety, the committee may recommend its acceptance, subject to final approval by the Board of Directors, upon which it becomes a recognized breed or variety.

g. No petition for subdivision of any standard variety shall be entertained by the Committee on Standards except Turkeys.