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Yes, you're right! Those are excellent. I've been very pleased so far. I have so many pictures of my 6 pt buck and his younger brother or cousin, the spike buck. They've hung around so much lately, every night now, that I call them Starbuck and Little Brother, LOL. That is on my other one that I have not downloaded in a few days. We've had lots of dense fog and then rain then snow and one day, the camera was iced over so I know it didn't take pics for 24 hours at least. But, those SAVA cameras are really good. Thankfully, I've not made any real mistakes buying them other than that Victure camera. I think I'll stick with what I know, though the SAVA ones are being sold under other names, I'm sure. Hard to tell what you're getting. The Victure looks just like the SAVA inside until you realize it has less funtionality and definitely is missing the overall quality.I like the cameras like our SAVA's. Great night pictures.