Predator/Great Pyrenees help needed!

[jjaazzy]

0 recall, selective hearing, not coming when called, they do eventually return home when they are good and hungry just not now.
I have keeped an adult Akbash I have never heard of this breed; I am pretty sure I won't find it around me but will definitely look. (wired just like a GP) and a GP in a 4' fenced area. They were both heavy 120#+ not athletic dogs. They tended to go through instead of over when they were younger. I see GPs kept with sheep and goats confined in temporary electric netting with no issues. Is the 4' fence hot? Fence is not hot, but it is good heavy 2x4 red wire I think if I remember correctly, it's also referred to no climb I think has the thick red wire across the top, TS sells it.
My GPxlab male 87#, could hold off 5 coyotes but got the Akbash as backup as he was getting up in years. Your coyotes do not sound healthy and normal. We have so much urban development that their habits have changed and evolved to not really being that concerned with humans. Most homes around me are 3/4 of an acre to max 2.5 so were pretty tight around here. I don't think they are rabid if that is what you are referring to as they seemed to be zoning in on my flock to feed their pack. Not just random crazy, which is how I am looking at it. I hope you're not right both dogs have been bit now this week. I have to get some back up and the bully I asked to go out and help the BC and he looked at me and said nope, not doing that again. Find someone else, so here I am.
Do the dogs you are considering live with livestock? Their preference should be to be out at night working. I don't think there is an abundance of that in Florida which is the area I am looking. However, I did find quite a few puppies and rehoming dogs. Do you think that is a must? Should I not be considering an older (not puppy) dog and start fresh with a couple puppies? We have considerable land to cover, and the front is pretty disconnected to the back. Like most homes have long back yards my land is wide, less deep. Thanks for coming in to talk to me I appreciate it.

 

[jjaazzy]

You're welcome. I've had him since he was 8 weeks old. He finally got his courage about 2 weeks ago and i just love hearing him running in the woods at night working. I can't wait to watch him progress. We have bobcats, black bears, coyotes etc. Hoping he is up to it in the long run. I have no fence so he is going to be working alot

Wow you do have the predator list! thanks for chatting with me. I am pretty confused at this point.

 

[jjaazzy]

So, having had the day here to mull this over, if I am just looking for back up for my current dogs. What do you think is most important qualities for a dog that will go out and chase these coyotes off? I wish I still had my Sharpei/bully crosses mom still with us. Those two would work together and take down the predators, sadly we lost her a couple Christmases ago. I rescued her from my mom's house, someone dumped her and her babies. They were starved to death. I really don't want to introduce a barky dog and is that something the GP's do a lot of? I am in a neighborhood.

 

[Red Mangrove]

There's LGD breeds that roam less than GP. Maremma come to mind, though they are more rare

 

[ShrekDawg]

So, having had the day here to mull this over, if I am just looking for back up for my current dogs. What do you think is most important qualities for a dog that will go out and chase these coyotes off? I wish I still had my Sharpei/bully crosses mom still with us. Those two would work together and take down the predators, sadly we lost her a couple Christmases ago. I rescued her from my mom's house, someone dumped her and her babies. They were starved to death. I really don't want to introduce a barky dog and is that something the GP's do a lot of? I am in a neighborhood.

Yes they bark. A lot. They were bred to.

 

[jjaazzy]

Yes they bark. A lot. They were bred to.

That's what my research is finding... Thanks

 

[ShrekDawg]

That's what my research is finding... Thanks

You’re welcome

 

[jjaazzy]

What about an Australian cattle dog? You think that will help me. My cousins have had quite a few none of them liked my husband which is weird cause our dogs always love him the most.

 

[Percheron chick]

What about an Australian cattle dog? You think that will help me. My cousins have had quite a few none of them liked my husband which is weird cause our dogs always love him the most.

As part of a team, a cattle dog is usually very tuned into this environment but I would be concerned about him going uo against a pack just because of the size disadvantage.

 

[jjaazzy]

I agree with this. The size concerns me, I got some wolf pee for now going to try it.