Preventative treatments...any advice?

[thndrdancr]

Thing is she is trying to make it easy on the person doing the caretaking. I just don't know, hon. Will you be able to visit? I would probably dose him before he goes if its not able to be done at whoever is caretaking. I know I wouldn't ask another to do my birds unless they were real familiar with what to do. Most my friends don't worm or anything or even know how.

I use oregano oil for cocci and I think it lasts roughly 3 weeks, but that is my own personal choice. As far as preventative, I just don't know what to tell you. Do you have any idea how long the situation may be?

And sorrybto hear, I have my own have to move long boring tragic story too, so sending hugs, I sure sympathize.

 

[Garden Peas]

Can I give him Corid before he gets there?
It would be a lot easier to do this while I have him caught for transport...
I'm unclear about how Corid works, sorry...

Using Corid is not a "One dose" thing. Honestly the easiest thing would be to put him back on chick starter that is medicated with amprolium. This should give him a chance to get exposed and build up a resistance if there are any new cocci strains present. If someone can keep an eye on him that would be best, then if he would start to act "OFF" put the Corid in his water as well. It is not as scientific as weighing and dosing, but if that is not feasible, this has worked for me, and I've brought home a bunch of newbies this year and I know I have cocci in my soil.

New2, I am SO sorry that you are having to go through this

I know it must be awful for you

I really believe Peggy will be okay.

So what Corid (amprolium) does is basically the same thing to coccidia that a wormer does to worms. It knocks down the intestinal load of coccidia... of the load that is presently in the bird. So that means that they don't reproduce to as high a number quite as fast, because there are fewer of them, and a lot of the ones that are already there get removed/killed/gone. It can't totally remove them, and it doesn't hang around in the body (at least not for any significant length of time afaik) so it's not like a slow release medicine or anything that sticks around to keep killing.

I think what @DylansMom suggested is a pretty smart plan. If you just give whoever is caring for Peggy a bag of medicated chick starter, he will get a low dose of amprolium through the feed, which will give his body a chance to acclimate to any coccidia that may be present that he isn't already immune to. Peas tend to build up immunity to coccidia as they get older (until they start weakening with old age, of course), so he just needs a chance to get used to anything new that he hasn't already developed immunity to. The other thing is that stress can make anyone's immune system less functional, so he could possibly get ill from the stress which (in theory) might reduce his immunity and maybe -- or maybe not -- let the coccidia that he's already immune to, get more of a foothold. Or he could be totally fine and never miss a beat.

So if you give him a dose of Corid before he goes, and send a bag of medicated feed, and maybe a bag of Corid powder... he should be all set for any eventuality. They are going to have to feed him some kind of food, so if he's getting medicated chick starter, he'll get some amprolium to ease the transition along with his daily feed ration. If you want to go all out, send a collapsible water jug, labeled with the correct amounts of Corid and DiMethox, and a bag (packet) of each of those meds. Here's how I fixed up one for me:





Both of those meds go in the water, so he doesn't have to get caught or weighed or anything. Just mix and refill the water container in the pen. No bird handling involved.

If he needs worming, the old Safeguard on bread trick works great. You could get a fairly close approximation of his weight when you handle him before he goes -- Safeguard is pretty safe, so you don't have to have the world's most precise measurement, just you & him and a digital bathroom scale set to read in Kilograms

He's not likely to have a tremendous change in his weight unless something unexpected happens, in which case I'm sure you will be on the phone, or driving there in two shakes, or something. Cuz we know how you feel about Peggy!

And again, if you worm him before he goes, it will knock down any worm load that he might currently have, so hopefully he won't need it for a few months.

New2, I really, really believe Peggy will be okay. Hang in there. He's got a great mom

 

[new 2 pfowl]

Thank you all for your really great suggestions.

You guys are so great!

His anticipated foster father has had peas for years, but as @thndrdancr suggests, I don't want to be too much of a burden.
I will certainly be able to visit him and keep an eye on him. In the meantime, for starters, I'm going to get some medicated chick starter which certainly can't do any harm...

 

[KsKingBee]

Sorry you have to go through all this,

, but I think you have a good game plan and it will turn out fine. Hoping you can get a new place where you can have your peas back and maybe even free range them.

 

[new 2 pfowl]

Can you guys tell me the brand name of a good medicated starter with amprolium?
None of my three local feed stores have medicated starter, but they will order it for me...I want to be sure of what I'm ordering.
Thanks again!

*Hmm, this is the only one that comes up readily when searching:




Is this one OK?
This is what it says about amprolium amount: 113.5 g/ton

 

[Garden Peas]

Can you guys tell me the brand name of a good medicated starter with amprolium?
None of my three local feed stores have medicated starter, but they will order it for me...I want to be sure of what I'm ordering.
Thanks again!

*Hmm, this is the only one that comes up readily when searching:




Is this one OK?
This is what it says about amprolium amount: 113.5 g/ton

Tractor Supply often carries this one:



There may also be a medicated DuMor chick starter at TSC, that's their store brand. The Manna Pro product is also fine.

 

[DylansMom]

Can you guys tell me the brand name of a good medicated starter with amprolium?
None of my three local feed stores have medicated starter, but they will order it for me...I want to be sure of what I'm ordering.
Thanks again!

*Hmm, this is the only one that comes up readily when searching:




Is this one OK?
This is what it says about amprolium amount: 113.5 g/ton

That is the one I start all my chicks on, they really seem to like the taste as well.

 

[new 2 pfowl]

Finally got some chick starter, it's called Kruse's, seems to be a California company...

Sorry to bug you guys with a Safeguard question. Do you think there would be a loss of efficacy if the dose was 1ml/day for 3 days, and then another 1ml 6 or 7 days later (instead of the recommended 10 days later)?

Thanks as always for your sage advice!

 

[KsKingBee]

Finally got some chick starter, it's called Kruse's, seems to be a California company...

Sorry to bug you guys with a Safeguard question. Do you think there would be a loss of efficacy if the dose was 1ml/day for 3 days, and then another 1ml 6 or 7 days later (instead of the recommended 10 days later)?

Thanks as always for your sage advice!

How old is Peggy? If he is over a year old, one ml per day isn't enough.

 

[new 2 pfowl]

Yikes! He's about to turn 4.
There's no way for me to weigh him but he seems comparable in size to the other boys here (although he gets more treats so may be a bit...bulkier). How much should he be getting?

*I should add, to clarify, that I'm giving him the 10% drench on bread.