problem with breathing

[peacock]

Hi guys,

maybe it was a little strong, but it helped, i have'nt heard the heavy breathing for over a week, so i think i can say he has fully recovered from his illness, if you breath cameo, cameo blackshoulder, silver pied or white eye or purple pied to the java male, all spaldings will be just split to the colours except some purple and cameo spalding hens, is this correct?
Anyway thanks for your help, i'm very happy he is better now,

Greetz Peacock

 

[deerman]

glad he is better....you are correct all would be splits except hens can't be split to a sex link color.

 

[MinxFox]

That is wonderful that he is doing better! Have a great breeding season!

 

[Dany12]

The ultimate question is: antibiotics and semen quality??

 

[6littlechickies]

The ultimate question is: antibiotics and semen quality??

That is a good question, but better to have a healthy live bird with a few less swimmers than an extremely fertile dead one.

Infections in poultry have been studied and sick fowl have significantly lower egg production and at times abnormal eggs (weak shell, oddly shaped...) This is of course in the female where most of the research lies. Haven't noticed fertility drop in birds the few times I've had to treat(M or F), but this is in no way scientific study, just observation of a small sample set.

 

[Bigcreekpeafowl]

Most breeders have to deal with the issue of wormers and the effect on semen than the effect antibiotics have.

 

[AllenWMiller]

Let an old man inject a few thoughts into this string

I've been in the hatchery and poultry industries for over 40 years now and in that time I've raised about every kind of Aves that are legally allowed to be raised. As Resolution pointed out pure strain Green Peafowl lines are becoming scarce. But I digress...

My first observation is that a lot of us are rushing to the antibiotic bottle before we even know what we are treating.

My second is that a Green Peacock is a valuable bird and shouldn't we be relying on a DVM to diagnosis in a serious situation? I am DPS (That's Doctor of Poultry Science) but I still defer all serious matters to my DVM.

Third thought goes along with Deerman. Gapeworm symptoms often act like respiratory symptoms. So we should all have a school grade microscope and some long wood stick cotton swabs and before we inject or douse or water any drugs into our birds we should be taking a throat culture, slapping it on a slide and looking under the old microscope first to see what's cooking. Especially if you aren't heading to the vet when such a bird is sick. Even laymen can, with a good color reference book (or Google) look under a microscope and identify a host of parasites and bacteria and if the microscope is good enough even some viral pathogens.

I hope your bird recovers quickly and doesn't loose any of his vigor or vitality.

Good Luck!

 

[Resolution]

Let an old man inject a few thoughts into this string

I've been in the hatchery and poultry industries for over 40 years now and in that time I've raised about every kind of Aves that are legally allowed to be raised. As Resolution pointed out pure strain Green Peafowl lines are becoming scarce. But I digress...

My first observation is that a lot of us are rushing to the antibiotic bottle before we even know what we are treating.

My second is that a Green Peacock is a valuable bird and shouldn't we be relying on a DVM to diagnosis in a serious situation? I am DPS (That's Doctor of Poultry Science) but I still defer all serious matters to my DVM.

Third thought goes along with Deerman. Gapeworm symptoms often act like respiratory symptoms. So we should all have a school grade microscope and some long wood stick cotton swabs and before we inject or douse or water any drugs into our birds we should be taking a throat culture, slapping it on a slide and looking under the old microscope first to see what's cooking. Especially if you aren't heading to the vet when such a bird is sick. Even laymen can, with a good color reference book (or Google) look under a microscope and identify a host of parasites and bacteria and if the microscope is good enough even some viral pathogens.

I hope your bird recovers quickly and doesn't loose any of his vigor or vitality.

Good Luck!

Yeah- Vern Denton once told me that anyone serious about keeping birds that doesn't have a microscope and know how to use it shouldn't be selling birds. I learned a bunch from that statement.

 

[AllenWMiller]

I agree Resolution with Denton's statement. Ralph Earnst would have been another source of that same quote as would Phil Stein and I've had that quote pounded into my head since 1931. So I'm glad folks still realize what's old is always new again. And if you've had an association with Vern Denton then you had a great teacher for breeding and rearing game birds.

Cheers

 

[PeepsCA]

I too agree with the above statements, especially when it comes to high dollar birds (or any animal of high value actually... but even low dollar birds and animals that have a high sentimental value)... But for those of us unfortunate enough not to have the knowledge to use a microscope or have the resources that afford us a vet's opinion, there is a very fine line that can be drawn for when to dose with an antibiotic or other medication or not to dose, in order to try and save the life of a bird (or animal) that's rapidly going down hill. Who draws that line and when to draw it are the 2 main questions that hang a lot of us newbies up, and account for a lot of losses.