Prolapsed Vent for 3 days - Where to go from here???

[Eggcessive]

So when a bird prolapses, it automatically gets vent gleet? My bird didn't have any signs of Gleet until the day she prolapsed. I think it was probably urates that were continually being passed.
Well, thanks for the information on the vitamin E! If mine prolapses again, I'll be sure to try it.

No they don't. Vent gleet is a fungal infection characterized by redness and sometimes loss of feathers and white patches around the vent. Anything white oozing out of the vent is probably urates mixed with poop. I think many people confuse a poopy butt with gleet. If you can trim oof the poopy feathers and the vent is then clean, not red and irritated with white patches, it is probably just a poopy butt.

 

[BantamLover21]

No they don't. Vent gleet is a fungal infection characterized by redness and sometimes loss of feathers and white patches around the vent. Anything white oozing out of the vent is probably urates mixed with poop. I think many people confuse a poopy butt with gleet. If you can trim oof the poopy feathers and the vent is then clean, not red and irritated with white patches, it is probably just a poopy butt.

That's what I thought. Thanks for clarifying!

 

[MuddyBootsPA]

Okay, WOW! I am thinking mine might not have gleet either, but just a poopy butt. The "gleet" does not seem to be clearing up despite my best efforts using all the standard treatments I've read here on BYC. Her bottom is oozing, though. This morning when I did her treatment, she had a soft shelled egg that was broken & needed to be removed. I also did a vinegar douche. Now that she had a soft shelled egg stuck today, I am not as hopeful as I was before of her long term recovery.

There is also a big difference in the conditions of the coop with my sick hen separated. The stools are much more formed & there is not as much loose cleanup. There are no broken eggs or soft shelled eggs. When I go to check the eggs in the morning around 8:30, all of the hens are done laying & the eggs look beautiful. Prior to my sick hen being separated, the coop had a lot of loose stools, broken soft shelled eggs or shell less eggs/yolk laying all around. The hens would lay sporatically throughout the day, so I'm guessing that my separated hen spent a lot of time monopolizing the favorite nest box trying to lay her eggs with no success. I also had some broken eggs in the nest boxes, but haven't had a problem since removing the prolapsed hen.

So, I'm a little sad today & coming to the realization that she was probably not a successful egg layer since they all started laying & she has been the "problem hen" all along. I guess I am realizing that maybe its best to put her down so shes not always suffering through this. Ugh...

 

[BantamLover21]

Okay, WOW! I am thinking mine might not have gleet either, but just a poopy butt. The "gleet" does not seem to be clearing up despite my best efforts using all the standard treatments I've read here on BYC. Her bottom is oozing, though. This morning when I did her treatment, she had a soft shelled egg that was broken & needed to be removed. I also did a vinegar douche. Now that she had a soft shelled egg stuck today, I am not as hopeful as I was before of her long term recovery.

There is also a big difference in the conditions of the coop with my sick hen separated. The stools are much more formed & there is not as much loose cleanup. There are no broken eggs or soft shelled eggs. When I go to check the eggs in the morning around 8:30, all of the hens are done laying & the eggs look beautiful. Prior to my sick hen being separated, the coop had a lot of loose stools, broken soft shelled eggs or shell less eggs/yolk laying all around. The hens would lay sporatically throughout the day, so I'm guessing that my separated hen spent a lot of time monopolizing the favorite nest box trying to lay her eggs with no success. I also had some broken eggs in the nest boxes, but haven't had a problem since removing the prolapsed hen.

So, I'm a little sad today & coming to the realization that she was probably not a successful egg layer since they all started laying & she has been the "problem hen" all along. I guess I am realizing that maybe its best to put her down so shes not always suffering through this. Ugh...

I'm sorry you might have to put her down.

I know how it feels to lose a bird after trying so hard to cure it.

 

[Eggcessive]

I think you are being a responsible chicken owner to see that she needs to be put down. If she is having all of these internal laying issues, she has to be in a great deal of pain--kind of like walking around with a burst appendix, you know? You have done everything you can. Internal layers will eventually die, but you can spare her a lot of misery.

 

[MuddyBootsPA]

Thanks everyone for the support.

With such a big difference in the overall well being of the rest of the other hens (5 others) and with all of her problems combined, the answer I guess is pretty obvious.

Hubby & I are struggling with how to do this & IF we want to see if a vet can do it tomorrow instead. I guess tomorrow I will look to see what vet options we have then make a decision. I have to work all day today & it being Sunday not much I can do until tomorrow anyway.

 

[Haunted55]

So when a bird prolapses, it automatically gets vent gleet? My bird didn't have any signs of Gleet until the day she prolapsed. I think it was probably urates that were continually being passed.
Well, thanks for the information on the vitamin E! If mine prolapses again, I'll be sure to try it.

No, Gleet is a yeast infection and doesn't always start when you have prolapse. It can be a cause of prolapse though. I would still try the probiotics to see if it clears it up. If you look at a box of Preparation-H, what's the first ingredient of note? Cut to the chase and just use the vitamin E. It's cheaper than buying a tube of PH and it can be used for so many different things. My medical kit is never without it for both humans and animals.

 

[Haunted55]

Okay, WOW! I am thinking mine might not have gleet either, but just a poopy butt. The "gleet" does not seem to be clearing up despite my best efforts using all the standard treatments I've read here on BYC. Her bottom is oozing, though. This morning when I did her treatment, she had a soft shelled egg that was broken & needed to be removed. I also did a vinegar douche. Now that she had a soft shelled egg stuck today, I am not as hopeful as I was before of her long term recovery.

There is also a big difference in the conditions of the coop with my sick hen separated. The stools are much more formed & there is not as much loose cleanup. There are no broken eggs or soft shelled eggs. When I go to check the eggs in the morning around 8:30, all of the hens are done laying & the eggs look beautiful. Prior to my sick hen being separated, the coop had a lot of loose stools, broken soft shelled eggs or shell less eggs/yolk laying all around. The hens would lay sporatically throughout the day, so I'm guessing that my separated hen spent a lot of time monopolizing the favorite nest box trying to lay her eggs with no success. I also had some broken eggs in the nest boxes, but haven't had a problem since removing the prolapsed hen.

So, I'm a little sad today & coming to the realization that she was probably not a successful egg layer since they all started laying & she has been the "problem hen" all along. I guess I am realizing that maybe its best to put her down so shes not always suffering through this. Ugh...

Whoa, whoa......if you have already made your mind up that this bird is no longer a viable member of your flock is one thing, but if she means enough to make you sad...I think maybe you need to rethink this for a minute.

The poopy butt, I can almost bet is Gleet. Unless you did the vinegar douche with white vinegar a couple of 3-4 times, I really don't think it's enough. Look, it's your bird and your decision but if it were me, this is what I have done and will do again.

For the soft shell eggs, get a human Calcium 500mg with vitamin D 400iu. I used a chewable one and gave it to the bird everyday in a small amount of water. No layer pellets, just the calcium with D. 3 days...that's all it took and her binding and soft shells were gone and have never returned.

The Gleet...if you go to a pharmacy and ask for Floragen3, about $15., and open the capsule of the probiotic over her feed, you will see results in 3-4 days as well. No way you will need the whole bottle of it and it has a long shelf life if kept in the fridge. Since it's a human probiotic, you can use it for yourself or family too. Good stuff!

Again, if your mind is made up then you have to do what you think is best and I hold no ill feelings against you at all, I hope you know that. I too have had to throw in the towel with some of my birds and it's never an easy thing to face. If you are still having second doubts though, please, try the above treatments.

 

[Haunted55]

I think you are being a responsible chicken owner to see that she needs to be put down. If she is having all of these internal laying issues, she has to be in a great deal of pain--kind of like walking around with a burst appendix, you know? You have done everything you can. Internal layers will eventually die, but you can spare her a lot of misery.

Ummm, as far as I know, this issue with soft shell eggs isn't internal laying. It is soft shell eggs caused by a lack of viable calcium in her diet, either because of genetics or sickness and stress. Internal laying is when the eggs do not come out but rather form a mass inside that eventually will kill the bird without intervention.

In the case of true internal laying, then yes, culling is probably the right thing to do as the bird would be in pain. Soft shell eggs? It's treatable!

 

[barbiegirl]

Hope the vet can help tomorrow. You are going the best you can for her. When she gets better she will remember how you helped her. My Snowie (wry neck) wants me to hold her every time she sees me.