Pronounciation Help "Cochin"

[joebryant]

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括=kuo= (ko) and 亲=qin= (chin) are two of Mandarin Chinese's 400 syllables.

 

[joebryant]

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beakeeper and bawkbawkbawk, I looked in several Chinese dictionaries for kouqin's being their translation of quail.
The only definition for the two syllables "kouqin" that I could find was "harmonica".
The only translation of quail I could find was 鹌鹑 ānchún (pronouced onchoon).

Let me double check tomorrow for some syllables that sound like kou and qin. It could be that if was changed by the invading Europeans because they didn't really understand/hear the pronunciation. There's another useful translation method called Wade-Giles, "cochin" might be listed there; however, I've forgotten almost all of what little I ever knew about the Wade-Giles pronunciation system.

 

[catwalk]

When I first saw the word Cochin, I was pronouncing it German, with a ch that I call the "soft hairball sound." Don't know why, guess I just assumed that it wouldn't be as easy as saying it phoenetically.

 

[Dustin Biery]

They originated in the Shanghai district of China. The name changed later to 'Cochin China' and then finally shortened to just 'Cochin'

 

[joebryant]

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Thanks, where did you get your information? Are you sure that you're not thinking of the chicken that was bred in Cochin, China (Vietnam)?

 

[Dustin Biery]

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ETA: Extreme difficulty with BYC replacing parts of my links with backyardchickens.com.....I understand why, but geeeeze.....why does everything have to be so darn difficult.

Another link that would be beneficial to many members here is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chicken_breeds

 

[herbandteas]

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I am glad someone posted this now I know how to say my chickens breed name!

Thanks!!!!

 

[WiseChicks]

The correct pronounciation of "Cochin" is "Fluffy-Butt!" Slight accent on the first half of the compound word.

Or, when arriving and the gate with a proper offering of garden foodstuffs, it is "Fluffy-Butts, Ahoy!"

(Especially on a day shortly after National Talk Like a Pirate Day.)

 

[joebryant]

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"Cochin (chicken)
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A Blue Cochin hen

The Cochin or Cochin China, originally known as the Chinese Shanghai, is a breed of chicken. The name Cochin came from its original Chinese name 九斤黄(in pinyin: jiujin huang, pronounced joo-chin hwong), meaning nine jin yellow, where jin is a traditional Chinese measurement of weight."

I'd bet dollars to donuts that Europeans heard jiujin as cochin because actually jiu sounds more like gee-oh (jeocheen probably later became cochin for the chicken and the quail). They did worse than that with a lot of Chinese words written in Wade-Giles and then Pinyin; remember when Beijing was pronounced Peking? Pinyin was/is better.

BTW, thanks again because I'd all but given up on finding anything in Wade-Giles.