Prospect thread for a possible resale horse -done

[kfchickenlady]

I agree with above posters about the white horse, looks coarse to me. However, horses as yearlings are at their worst conformationally, being like teenaged boys, ungainly and at an awkward stage of development. The old saying, 3 weeks, 3 months, 3 years is when you can see what theyre going to mature to be.
Ive found this to be true, esp with TBs and Warmbloods, but that is just my opinion. If I were requesting sale photos, I would expect 3 shots of each, one from the front, one from the rear, and a side view, all with the horse being held by a handler. How can you possibly be expected to judge anything from these photos?
One thing I didnt see mentioned was the very very important TEMPERAMENT, esp for a show/resale project. What are their bloodlines? What are they bred to do? The best way to judge temperament I think is when you go handle a horse yourself, and dont gloss over any little quirks, either. Also, you will want to see how they MOVE.
Good luck to you!

 

[texasgal]

# 2 is a few-spot leopard appaloosa .. caused by a double dose of the leopard gene. Even discounting his color, or lack of, in those pictures, he is the least desirable one, in my opinion.

I like the expression on #1

3 or 4 could both be nice projects ..

Let us know .. and good luck!

BTW .. these all look like apps to me..

# 3 has color even .. definitely not a BS paint.

 

[Goldenseal]

...Im kind of blunt...so I hope I dont offend.

the pics you received are really craptastic.

I like 1 best...based on photo, but impossible to tell without a profile.

#2 - NO NO NO that is all.

#3- looks quite long backed, makes it darn near impossible to collect

#4 - NO, the colt has NO hip, NO muscling and sickle hocks.

now, lets do some math.

say you get a colt ( it should be free) or next to nothing, put a solid year
of training, forget about calculating and hourly wage, figure the feed you have
in them to get em looking decent, vet work...minimal, vaccinations, worming,
coggins if you re sell, and farrier work.

You could have the colt a year or more before re sale, and maybe....maaaaaybeeeeee
get $450 for it, here at auction and horse like that is more like $150 - $200.
and that is trained and riding solid.

colts like that run through the pen here are $10 - $50

now is it worth your time, wear and tear on YOU, feed and expense
worth it for $400 profit? in a year? hec you'd make a lot more working at
mc donalds and not have the labor. LOL


If you get a better colt to start with, they eat the same, farrier the same,
cost the same to maintain, and you can up your sales price by 100 fold.

 

[mom'sfolly]

#3 is in the background of picture #4, and looks even worse in that picture. I'd ask for better photos of 1 and 4, and completely skip the other two. For a resale project, #2's color is just flat ugly, and would make it a hard sell. I think colorwise, again cute resale, 1 and 4 are the best. I like the fact that #1 turned to look at the person taking the photo, even if it is standing funny.

 

[EweSheep]

I remember on her last post, she wants to sell it to a 4H, right? Well that is doable.

One--need a better profile, some narrow horses can be ridden, cowhocks are good for stopping so a pleasure trail horse would suit just fine. Seen many of those on the trails and they really didnt have any problems with them legwise. Good for carriage or buggy riding, draft horses are cowhocks too but so much power behind it.

Two--I'd pass on him...nothing screamed at me "LOOK AT ME". Either he will be placid like a draft horse or stubborn. Not crazy about his color at all.

Three--PASS! Like someone here said, like pieces of horses glued together and don't look right. Seems to be weak in hindquarters, "probably camped under" from his stifle to toe alignment, and yes, too much white.

Four--need UTD pictures, he looked awfully young in that picture but he is the one that attracted my attention to get a closer look. I don't like appys but with that, color breeds seems to sell well and he reminds me of a famous Appy like that. Can not remember who. He was a National CH. He would make a beautiful Western Pleasure horse with that color, with correct saddle, with good color coordination. Teal colors seems to go well with chestnut/sorrel/dun colors.

Like the rest of us in here said, TEMPERMENT is the BEST, then the rest of the things can fall in its place in what you are wanting to train him for. Willingness to learn things/listening to your cues and be able to do it would make a better training horse.

I agree with Goldenseal, the pictures are CRAP for showing prospective buyers. Not a good way for the seller to sell her horses fast.

One and four would be my best selection!

 

[patandchickens]

mom'sfolly :

#3 is in the background of picture #4, and looks even worse in that picture.

Are you sure? #3 has a solid (no white above pastern) left foreleg; the horse in the background of the #4 pic has white up to above the knee on what I am fairly positive is his left foreleg. (and it looks like *probably* white up above the fetlock on the other foreleg, although I cannot be certain it isn't just sunglare on lighter longer hair)

I agree they do look pretty similar, but I think it is just coincidence? Unless one pic has for some reason been digitally flipped left-to-right.

Pat​

 

[babyblue]

#1
I might request better pics of #1. the only thing I can tell about him is hes a dark bay/BROWN horse, color wise he is exactly the same as my old qh. smutty anything my rear end. he looks to have a decent face, but really the pic could be very very misleading about his back end.


#2
this one just screams no no no to me. hes not horrible conformation wise, but hes nothing to write home about either. the color is not pretty, and pretty sells. the head face neck just screams stubborn little monster to me, or DUUURRRRR as his attitude. lol.

#3
I agree this horse looks like a mismatch of different bits of horses. hes the oldest in the photos, the worst put together and has kinda outgrown the "looks like a straggly baby" to me. meaning this horse taint gonna grow out of his ugly.

#4
I like this one. short strong back. legs are not bad, rumps not bad. head looks proportioned and relatively fine for an appy. the color is adorable, and trust me that sells. even ignoring the color this is still the baby Id go look at.

 

[EweSheep]

Quote:
Are you sure? #3 has a solid (no white above pastern) left foreleg; the horse in the background of the #4 pic has white up to above the knee on what I am fairly positive is his left foreleg. (and it looks like *probably* white up above the fetlock on the other foreleg, although I cannot be certain it isn't just sunglare on lighter longer hair)

I agree they do look pretty similar, but I think it is just coincidence? Unless one pic has for some reason been digitally flipped left-to-right.

Pat

Sharp eyes! I looked at the mane as well as one side is over on 3 and 4 shows either it is half or blowing from the wind. It is difficult to see if it is the same or exact horse. I have to look at it more.

 

[WIChookchick]

Quick update- she sent me a pic of a coming 3 yr old, who looks very stallionesqe to me...

I have asked for Updated pics, and have asked the question on HOW they are in the herd, who is top, bottom...how do they get along at feeding time, graining,
Have they been around dogs/goats/cats. How are they with young weanlings, older horses, do they tie, halter, you know stuff like that.
She says she will get the updated pics for me.
She lives about 2 hours away from me, it is worth the drive to see them, she is willing to deliver for 20 dollars, as it would give her the excuse to go visit family
in Madison.
I am not looking to make much if any profit on the horse I pick. I want something I can start, and take to some shows. My horses just aren't that kind of horse.
My DH's has confidence issues, she is a great horse, but likes to be second horse, or the horse that follows the other horses. My horse has confidence, but is too
neurotic for the show ring, even schooling shows. She loves parades however, and is a great trail horse.
I am not looking to win or have a high powered show horse. One for some fun shows, and a benefit show that is held locally, and a great fun/open show that attracts ALOT
of 4H'ers. PLUS a person I would be taking lessons from on lungeline and showmanship, works with ALOT of 4H kids, AND a great boarding/training stable, my barn owner uses,
would be very interested in a nice gelding that has some potential as a 4H show horse/open show for kids.

A few years back before the collapse in the horse market...I bought on impulse a 2 coming 3 yr old 3/4 arab gelding at a big name catalog auction for 200. I had to wait for his paperwork to be mailed/ my check cashed...
I had him sold to the trainers at the boarding/training stable a day after I got him home. I only sold him for 300, and my barn owner said I could have gotten more.
I realize that, but I had him for 2 weeks, simply waiting on paperwork. I didn't want to make money off of him.
I wanted him to go to a great home that could put the training in him to make him a show horse.
They did, and that is what he is doing.

This time, I am doing it, I don't expect to make much off of the horse I get now. I just want to train a young horse, show him a bit, and then market him.
And see what happens... But I need to start off with something vaguely decent...

Wanted to add- the #3 horse may be a crop out QH, or a breed stock paint in my opinion because, lack of white ABOVE the knee, and no visible spots, paint markings on him..
Carol

 

[Baybrio]

Someone before me said you can't tell much from the photos but I still can't help myself - I feel the same way! I enjoy reading what other people see in these horses.

OP, you really cannot hear this enough - TEMPERAMENT is the key to family/pleasure (not show pleasure)/4-H horse success. My opinion is you will find beginners who will buy the cute or breathtaking horses - but those matches are often not successful. On the other hand if you market a quiet, agreeable, willing horse to 4-H leaders, folks who give lessons and are looking for horses for their students, adult riders looking for husband horses - you have the makings of a successful sale. Of course good conformation helps a horse perform what we are asking of them more easily and more comfortably.

I can't tell much about the first horse, but I'd go and look. I don't see any sign of cow-hocks.

Number two - due to some defect in my character I always like the underdog. I'd look at him also.

Number three - I worry about his balance. His knees and hocks look "too high" to me. But I really would like to see him move in person.

Number four - Oh, I can't comment on him. I had a wonderful Appy that I started and did novice level eventing with that looks just like this little guy. He won every time I took him out and was a doll most of the time. I love the white tips on the ears. He was a reject from a reining barn in Connecticut - too tall. I must say he won because of his temperament - he was very trainable and put up with my mistakes! I sold him to a wonderful women who evented, fox hunted and showed him in hunters until he was diagnosed with narcolepsy. She could afford any horse (really she could) but liked his temperament!