Puppy training advice

[BigBlueHen53]

Oh wow that is amazing and adorable!!!

This dog was another one with more energy than he knew what to do with! He was 2 yo before I could get a decent pic of him. This was in the days of actual film. I had rolls of pics of golden blurs and blobs and frames of nostrils! But I finally got a Sit-stay out of him when he was two and got a great pic of him. Ah, he was a glorious best!

 

[ShrekDawg]

This dog was another one with more energy than he knew what to do with! He was 2 yo before I could get a decent pic of him. This was in the days of actual film. I had rolls of pics of golden blurs and blobs and frames of nostrils! But I finally got a Sit-stay out of him when he was two and got a great pic of him. Ah, he was a glorious best!

Oh wow that’s amazing!!!

A good Golden or Lab is a great dog

 

[BigBlueHen53]

Yeah I’m not sure either! I guess maybe they could be considered somewhat designer by some since a lot of places breed both them and the mixes? But I hope we didn’t offend her either as I agree! She had great ideas

Well people are now mixing Yorkies with other breeds so now you have yorkie-poos for example, which as far as i know are not AKC recognized, that woud be considered a "designer breed" nowadays when once upon a time would just have been considered a mutt. But I guess now they are getting them to breed consistent so they are becoming an actual breed, in the same way the Doberman was once just a mix of breeds but is now a true breed. That's how new breeds are created.

 

[BigBlueHen53]

Lol I could go on about my late great Golden all night. But i'm gonna call it a night for now, Kiddo. You take care. See you tomorrow probably. Good night!

 

[ShrekDawg]

Well people are now mixing Yorkies with other breeds so now you have yorkie-poos for example, which as far as i know are not AKC recognized, that woud be considered a "designer breed" nowadays when once upon a time would just have been considered a mutt. But I guess now they are getting them to breed consistent so they are becoming an actual breed, in the same way the Doberman was once just a mix of breeds but is now a true breed. That's how new breeds are created.

Yeah that’s true!! Although they’re always coming up with all sorts of new mixes so not sure how consistent they’ll be since there’s always a new fad and stuff and for some it’s about money by there are good ones Even if it’s not many working towards making them breeds. Like I think cavapoo and cavachon are one. And then there’s ones like the labradoodles which have been around forever at this point that are actually trying to be a breed. I think there’s a subset of them, Australian Labradoodles or something, that breeders have been working hard at trying to get recognized

 

[ShrekDawg]

Lol I could go on about my late great Golden all night. But i'm gonna call it a night for now, Kiddo. You take care. See you tomorrow probably. Good night!

I’d love to hear about him sometime! Maybe another time haha I think I am going to go to bed myself.

 

[EverythingDucks]

Y'all didn't offend me! I have a (toy) Maltipoo and a (AKC) Yorkshire Terrier. People often refer to them as designer breeds because of there small size, price, popularity, and well cuteness. Technically a 'designer' breed would be a hybrid, like a mix of a purebred Poodle, and a purebred Bichon Frise. Now though people just call and small breeds like that 'designer'. It doesn't really mean anything, just a common term to categorize them. Some example of what I think designer breeds are would be: Cotton De Tualar, Japanese Chin, Pekingese, Chiwawa, Pomeranian, Yorkshire Terrier, Maltese, Shi Tzu, Papillon, Havanese, Toy Poodle, French Bulldog, Lhasa Apso, and the West Highland White Terrier. There's plenty more, and all the hybrids too. Teddy and Rosie are the only dogs I've ever had, and I'm a bit allergic to most other breeds, which is why we bought from a breeder rather than adopt. I love all dogs though, no matter where they're from.

 

[NightingaleJen]

A lot of people think that they can just let the dog rot all day or whatever and while yes, they can and should, be trained and still expected to listen, it’s definitely a lot easier if they’ve gotten all their beans out so to speak. And also not really fair to them to keep them cooped up all the time. Once they’re trained and know the commands, yes, they should listen all the time, but when they’re still learning, it can be very hard to focus when they’re bouncing off the walls.

I apologize for getting folks riled. This is exactly what I meant. Over the years, far too many times I've seen dogs left alone in a yard or worse, tied to the deck and not even played with by "their kids", then the owners would kvetch to us about how ill-behaved and untrainable the dog was or that it barked all day (tell me!) and they could not get it to stop. It's a bit upsetting to me, if you can't tell—it's very unfair to the dog to not treat it properly then blame it for its behavioural issues.

@EBirdsong, I can't believe I forgot—train with hand signals! At least for the basics like come, sit, stay ("just stand there for ten seconds while I grab that chicken/pick some tomatoes/laugh helplessly because [family member] walked into the sliding glass door while carrying a pie"), bring it. For some reason they are really helpful in training. Just figure out what signal + word combo you are going to use, and be consistent with it every time.

I'm sure some of the actual trainers can explain why this is.

Also, in odd situations—you think you hear someone in the house when you're alone, or maybe you think you heard a rattlesnake in the brush, or you are just on the phone or calling the kids back—it's super nice to be able to get obedience without having to say a word.

ETA @reddogmaster2, those "long downs" are a good idea (though still not entirely sure about a puppy, they sound like they are worth trying). Especially for those really bad health days many have, they might come in handy.

 

[ShrekDawg]

I apologize for getting folks riled. This is exactly what I meant. Over the years, far too many times I've seen dogs left alone in a yard or worse, tied to the deck and not even played with by "their kids", then the owners would kvetch to us about how ill-behaved and untrainable the dog was or that it barked all day (tell me!) and they could not get it to stop. It's a bit upsetting to me, if you can't tell—it's very unfair to the dog to not treat it properly then blame it for its behavioural issues.

@EBirdsong, I can't believe I forgot—train with hand signals! At least for the basics like come, sit, stay ("just stand there for ten seconds while I grab that chicken/pick some tomatoes/laugh helplessly because [family member] walked into the sliding glass door while carrying a pie"), bring it. For some reason they are really helpful in training. Just figure out what signal + word combo you are going to use, and be consistent with it every time.

I'm sure some of the actual trainers can explain why this is.

Also, in odd situations—you think you hear someone in the house when you're alone, or maybe you think you heard a rattlesnake in the brush, or you are just on the phone or calling the kids back—it's super nice to be able to get obedience without having to say a word.

ETA @reddogmaster2, those "long downs" are a good idea (though still not entirely sure about a puppy, they sound like they are worth trying). Especially for those really bad health days many have, they might come in handy.

I agree with all of this!! although I think that’s the difference and maybe where the misunderstanding came from? Because for a lot of people it’s a given that the dog will be excercised and trained, even if it’s not running miles, and it’s hard to imagine that anybody would neglect their dog or whatever but too many people do!! Even in families that provide the “best” food, beds, toys, and great everything else, they get busy or have kids practices or whatever and the dog gets forgotten. And far too many behavior problems are a direct result of boredom and/or lack of exercise. Maybe that’s what you and others were more meaning? Cause it’s not necessarily obedience issues but stuff like excessive barking, chewing on things/destroying the house, anxiety, jumping, etc. etc.

 

[ShrekDawg]

I apologize for getting folks riled. This is exactly what I meant. Over the years, far too many times I've seen dogs left alone in a yard or worse, tied to the deck and not even played with by "their kids", then the owners would kvetch to us about how ill-behaved and untrainable the dog was or that it barked all day (tell me!) and they could not get it to stop. It's a bit upsetting to me, if you can't tell—it's very unfair to the dog to not treat it properly then blame it for its behavioural issues.

@EBirdsong, I can't believe I forgot—train with hand signals! At least for the basics like come, sit, stay ("just stand there for ten seconds while I grab that chicken/pick some tomatoes/laugh helplessly because [family member] walked into the sliding glass door while carrying a pie"), bring it. For some reason they are really helpful in training. Just figure out what signal + word combo you are going to use, and be consistent with it every time.

I'm sure some of the actual trainers can explain why this is.

Also, in odd situations—you think you hear someone in the house when you're alone, or maybe you think you heard a rattlesnake in the brush, or you are just on the phone or calling the kids back—it's super nice to be able to get obedience without having to say a word.

ETA @reddogmaster2, those "long downs" are a good idea (though still not entirely sure about a puppy, they sound like they are worth trying). Especially for those really bad health days many have, they might come in handy.

And yes, I love hand signals.

Also useful for situations where maybe you are far away from the dog and they can’t hear you but can see your exaggerated movements haha