Question on Wheaten genetics

[chickenmomma16]

I was about to say this.

The sons that look fine will be wheaten and also they will not belong to her. The salmon sons will belong to her.
The daughters of hers will not be carriers, they only inherit the gene from their father.

So your saying she cannot produce a normal son? Would I be safe in not keeping a male from her this year and just breeding her daughters back to their father?

 

[chickenmomma16]

It’s unfortunate she is “miss colored” she did well for her previous owner at shows ​

 

[Amer]

So your saying she cannot produce a normal son? Would I be safe in not keeping a male from her this year and just breeding her daughters back to their father?

I’d say.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

The other hen in the background is a Gold sex-link cross Easter Egger. This particular hen is a common Wheaten coloration. The SOP calls for Light Wheaten - Light Creamy Wheaten. Here is my other hen for comparison
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Edited to add:
I can definitely see the similarities in the male blue Salmon Faverolles to what’s happening to my blue Wheatens. This is quite fascinating!

That's why I tried to back up my post with genetic evidence rather than visible evidence... Wheaten ameraucanas are very light compared to other wheaten chickens.

So the Sons that look fine will be split and the ones that look Blue salmon/salmon are Blue Salmon/Salmon. Correct?
What about her daughters? Will they be carriers? It’s obviously going to be harder to tell who is what with the females.

As @AMERAUCANAS4REAL said, all her sons are split. Her daughters will be wheaten.

 

[chickenmomma16]

@AMERAUCANAS4REAL @RoostersAreAwesome
And anyone else who can answer:

Just to make sure I understand this,
If I do not keep any sons from her and only daughters will I forever rid myself of this Blue Salmon/Silver Blue Wheaten gene?

Just Curious... Hypothetically....
What if I do keep a son? How will he pass on the Salmon coloration to his progeny?

I just want to be 100% sure I understand this before getting rid of all these cockerels.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

@AMERAUCANAS4REAL @RoostersAreAwesome
And anyone else who can answer:

Just to make sure I understand this,
If I do not keep any sons from her and only daughters will I forever rid myself of this Blue Salmon/Silver Blue Wheaten gene?

Just Curious... Hypothetically....
What if I do keep a son? How will he pass on the Salmon coloration to his progeny?

I just want to be 100% sure I understand this before getting rid of all these cockerels.

If you keep the daughters and get rid of the mother and brothers, you won't have the silver gene in your flock.
If you bred the split sons to their mother, you'd get 25% silver roos, 25% split roos, 25% silver hens, and 25% gold hens.

 

[chickenmomma16]

If you keep the daughters and get rid of the mother and brothers, you won't have the silver gene in your flock.
If you bred the split sons to their mother, you'd get 25% silver roos, 25% split roos, 25% silver hens, and 25% gold hens.

Thank you for that.
I guess I will hatch what I can from her this year and pass her on to a layer home with my cull pullets next year. It’s over half of my current grow out cockerels that I have to send to auction now.


I bought a breeding Quad(no brothers of her) so I’m glad I can nip this in the bud now before I have more birds to deal with. And I’m so thankful I single mated the hens and toe punched the chicks! It probably saved my bacon hu?

 

[Amer]

Thank you for that.
I guess I will hatch what I can from her this year and pass her on to a layer home with my cull pullets next year. It’s over half of my current grow out cockerels that I have to send to auction now.


I bought a breeding Quad(no brothers of her) so I’m glad I can nip this in the bud now before I have more birds to deal with. And I’m so thankful I single mated the hens and toe punched the chicks! It probably saved my bacon hu?

Sure did!