Raising up Pyrenees pups. UPDATE P7

[ladydoc1992]

I've been wanting to get a GP, but my husband is not quite ready for such a large dog . BTW..how big do they get?

 

[r4eboxer]

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I have had 3 female lhasa's at one time, one mother and two sisters. I had to re-home the two sisters to separate homes. I got the worst dog bite of my life trying to separate those girls. I will house these two separately. The plan is to imprint one with the ducks and chickens and one with the goat. They will be about 5 acres apart. I have already succumbed to the idea of getting out of bed an hour earlier in the mornings and reducing my TV/PC time in the evenings to under take this project. I have put A LOT of thought and preparation into these dogs and done my homework before making the decision to take them in. I will not be spaying though as I intend them to give me future generations to care for my fields and stock.

 

[r4eboxer]

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Over 100 lbs, I figure these 8 week old girls are going to be bigger than my 20 lbs 7 yr old male Lhasa.

 

[Mountain Man Jim]

This sounds excited. You might want to consider that, at least in my limited experience, that it will take a while (1 to 1.5 yrs) before the Pyr puppies are reliable with the chickens. Somewhere around a year old my Pyr started chasing geese excessively; though I can’t blame her. Our Chinese geese were asking for it

Jim

 

[hitgsd]

Have the parents been OFA certified? Are these AKC dogs or some other registration? Like CKC? OFA is the orthopedic Foundation for Animals. What it means is that a board (3) of radiologists have evaluated the Hip and Elbow X-rays of the dogs and assigned a rating to the dog. It can be done before 24 months but no rating is given, just a oppinion of the films. A dog with Hip dysplasia should never be bred. And a "cheap" puppy might end up costing you a lot of heart ache and money in the end. Also is the puppy being sold with a guarantee of it's hips, or any health guarantee at all? Sometimes cheap is expensive in the end. DO a lot of research before you commit.

 

[AllCoop'dUp]

While I appreciate your enthusiam, before you pick up your puppies, please read up on “Littermate Syndrome”. I also hope that you will rethink your position regarding spaying your girls. Especially, if as you say "don't have the health certifications" that come with a pup through a breeder. No reputable breeder would continue to breed for less than desirable qualities in their dogs. What is your plan to keep male dogs away when both girls come in heat so they do not “accidently” become bred with the Heinz 57 down the road? After waiting 2 years, I just got a Pyr puppy who is now 4 months old. After 1 month alone with the poultry, he play a duck and goose to death. Leaves the chickens alone, thank goodness. I foresee spending the next 18 months monitoring him very closely to ensure he is taught correctly. When my older non-LGD passes, I will then get a female LGD, but not to breed. I’ll leave that to the experts.

 

[watchdogps]

Sorry to rain on your parade, but I have to agree with the others who have pointed out that these may not be cheaper if they end up with health problems. Additionally, if they have no known health testing in recent generations, I wouldn't consider them breeding stock. I know you say you want them to breed to kep more for yourself, but do you need eight more lgds? If you only plan to keep one or two, you have a lot more to ge rid of and it isn't as easy as you think. I asked you this before and I don't think I got an answer. You've got a couple years to think about it, but if you seriously want to breed I would suggest starting with dogs with more health history, not bargain basement dogs.

 

[lethldragon]

I'm liking my boxer a little better since she started hanging out with my three hens, I have them all treats a couple days ago and the boxer thought she was going to get more than one but my RIR hen put her in her place, stoke the treat out if her mouth and kicked her butt, it was funny because the dog just looked at her like "hey, that was mine"

 

[r4eboxer]

No offense to the nay Sayers but you could find my other post to see that I have been at this for a while and am very aware of everything you are saying. I never enter into anything lightly. the cost of the other breeder pups was insane And she wanted co ownership and a bunch of other contract demands. I didn't get away with these pups at a steal anyway.

I will not breed unhealthy animals and if these dogs turn out to have problems they won t be bred. my Lhasa apso are both fixed and are completely healthy. I don't have a need for Lhasa offspring so no need to breed. They are akc certified but that means nothing to me, you send akc puppy registration papers and money and you get a pedigree. I would be impressed if you had to provide blood samples and prove a line but as it is now as long as you have papers for a male and female of the same breed you could register a litter from a stray picked up along the road. No real proof needed.

I got the pups and they are adorable I have not gotten pics yet due to all my evening chores. I will get some in the morning or after I take them to the vet. I am hoping he can squeeze me in for a checkup and to get the second set of shots.

I know that it is possible to have large vet bills, it can happen with any type of animal, I think all of us take that chance with animal husbandry.

I do know these pups have to be trained and it will take a while, I have had the great pleasure of speaking with many knowledgeable breeders on this forum and in real life.

Thanks to all who have given me advice, this was really a follow up to my other post.

 

[r4eboxer]

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