Rare Lavender Araucana?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by lavenderorpgirl, Nov 16, 2011.

  1. lavenderorpgirl

    lavenderorpgirl Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hi,

    Just wanted to get some input - I have 5 Lavender Araucanas (Hink JC line) -

    One of the roosters has a single comb - from what I have been able to find via this site http://www.araucana.com/Tufts-Rumpless-Blue%20Egg-Pea%20Comb.htm

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    is a rare bird according to the site "If the blue egg gene recombines with the single comb gene, or the pea comb gene recombines with the white egg gene, you can have a single combed quasi-Araucana laying a blue egg (RARE). " but how does that apply if he has hoo haa's and isn't a hen?

    Pics are here - and we are absolutely certain he IS a true Araucana. Thank you for any input!

    araucana roo with single comb
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    aruacana roo with pea comb and arauana with single comb
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    araucana roo with single comb and araucana tailed hen
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    2 hens and "normal" roo on right
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    rooster and hen
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  2. pips&peeps

    pips&peeps There is no "I" in Ameraucana

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    More than likely he isn't carrying the blue egg gene. I would cull since your line already is carrying the single comb gene and you will just reinforce it.
     
  3. lavenderorpgirl

    lavenderorpgirl Chillin' With My Peeps

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    pips&peeps :

    More than likely he isn't carrying the blue egg gene. I would cull since your line already is carrying the single comb gene and you will just reinforce it.

    If he were carrying it then he would be worth keeping (othewise we will rehome him)? Is it difficult to find out (never had anyone's genes checked before lol)?

    Thank you for taking the time to post your input - I greatly appreciate it!

    :eek:)​
     
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  5. pips&peeps

    pips&peeps There is no "I" in Ameraucana

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    Quote:If he were carrying it then he would be worth keeping (othewise we will rehome him)? Is it difficult to find out (never had anyone's genes checked before lol)?

    Thank you for taking the time to post your input - I greatly appreciate it!

    :eek:)

    The only way to find out is to breed him to a white egg layer and grow the pullets out and wait for them to lay..............
     
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  6. lavenderorpgirl

    lavenderorpgirl Chillin' With My Peeps

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    pips&peeps :

    Quote:If he were carrying it then he would be worth keeping (othewise we will rehome him)? Is it difficult to find out (never had anyone's genes checked before lol)?

    Thank you for taking the time to post your input - I greatly appreciate it!

    :eek:)

    The only way to find out is to breed him to a white egg layer and grow the pullets out and wait for them to lay..............​

    WOW - I thought it was something I could send some blood off for or something...hhhmmmm...I don't even have any white egg layers! lol...
     
  7. OSUman

    OSUman GO BUCKS

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    Do any of your "Araucanas" have tufts?
     
  8. Stacykins

    Stacykins Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:Tufts aren't guaranteed in any araucana breeding, even if you are breeding tufted to tufted. That is because any living tufted bird is only hterozygous for the gene. If an embryo is homozygous for tufting, it dies before it hatches. Meaning tufted x tufted = 25% cleanfaced, 50% tufted, and 25% dead in shell. Breeding tufted x cleanfaced results in half cleanfaced and half tufted. So yes, purebred araucanas can be without tufts. Often breeders will used cleanfaced birds so there is no chick mortality.

    OP, I would honestly cull him. Single combs would just be a pain in the butt to work out of your birds if you used him as a breeder. That must have been a throwback to when the lavenders (opringtons? Not sure what Hink JC used to create the lavender araucana) were first crossed with Araucanas.
     
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  9. OSUman

    OSUman GO BUCKS

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    Quote:Tufts aren't guaranteed in any araucana breeding, even if you are breeding tufted to tufted. That is because any living tufted bird is only hterozygous for the gene. If an embryo is homozygous for tufting, it dies before it hatches. Meaning tufted x tufted = 25% cleanfaced, 50% tufted, and 25% dead in shell. Breeding tufted x cleanfaced results in half cleanfaced and half tufted. So yes, purebred araucanas can be without tufts, no need for the snootiness. Often breeders will used cleanfaced birds so there is no chick mortality.

    Stacykins I know the genetics of it, that is why I was asking because I didnt see any that had Tufts which is required to get the tufts so she would need to get a tufted rumpless Black or Lavender Araucana. I was just asking a question and trying to help.
     
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  10. lavenderorpgirl

    lavenderorpgirl Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Yes, they do. They are true Araucana's and the hen is tufted and rumpless and so is one of the roo's. 4th picture down, the hen in the front has tufts, the other is clean faced.
     
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