Red alert. Huge bird losses. Please help!

darkjasmine1

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Jan 29, 2018
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Hi everyone, I’ve been lurking on here for a while but just signed up. I am in need of the expertise of all of you to help me if possible.

I live in southern Ontario, Canada on 100 acres of mostly protected wetland and mixed bush/ grassland. Our land is rich in a diversity of wildlife which has been a pleasure to cohabitate with. To keep my dad busy in his later years, we built a chicken coop with an adjacent area for peafowl. Up until last year with two free ranging dogs, we had very little trouble with predators.

Our Shepherd died last winter and since then, our efforts to raise birds have led to devastating losses. In late spring my dad bought 300 baby chicks which were kept closed in the coop, with heat lamps etc. One morning we went in to discover that at least half were dead, not piled up in corners, then within a 24 hr period the rest were killed and at a steady rate the carcasses just disappeared. We discovered a tunnel under one of the feeders. Suspecting weasels, we built plywood boxed broooders with solid floors and fortified the area around it to block them from digging into the coop.

My dad tried again a month later with another 300. They survived the brooder box stage and then once about halfway grown, we made another chilling discovery. This time all 300 vanished without a trace. There were openings between the walls and the roof for ventilation. My dad suspected raccoons. I suspected humans. We padlocked the coop, and fortified the ceiling openings.

He successfully raised a third batch of chickens without incurring losses.

Concurrently, we owned three free ranging peafowl as pets. A male and two females. Once the last batch of chickens was harvested in December we ceased raising them for the season. The peafowl were housed in the adjacent room to the chickens but could come and go freely. The theory was that enclosing them simply acted as a way of trapping them in case of predator attack. They’re such bold birds that they have very little to fear, it seems.

We lost a female in December to what appeared to be unrelated causes. Then the male sustained a leg injury by getting twine wrapped around it. We caught him gently and removed the twine but as he had started acting very skittish all of a sudden, worried he might fly away in the dead of winter I enclosed the pair in their pen with some heat lamps.

Within days my worst fears came to bear. I heard an awful screeching one night around 4:30 am. Knowing that something had gotten to them I ran out screaming with a metal staff in hand into the -20C night when I reached the door and looked in the window the peahen was in what looked to be a death roll struggling to shrug off an animal I could barely see. I swung the metal staff loudly and repeatedly against the door, screaming in an attempt to scare it off. Within what was seconds the peahen was dead and the ?weasel was gone. He had come up through a hole under a wooden pallet and taken her out by surprise. The predator actually tried dragging a full grown peahen under the pallet with him. She died of head trauma. The male peacock was safely perched above this scene in utter shock. We gently netted the peacock and I carried him to our cement floored garage for safety where he still safely resides. We just got him a new mate and he is so gentle and protective of her since the moment they were introduced a few days ago. We can’t keep them locked in the garage indefinitely. I figure we house them there until spring and until then come up with a plan for a much more secure aviary.

Incidentally my dad poisoned the peahen carcass with something that kills raccoons. I don’t think it worked because the poison and the carcass were consumed entirely. We went out to the “scene of the crime” yesterday and after removing some feed bags and the pallet discovered multiple tunnelled attempts to gain access to the chicken coop and in one spot the plywood wall was chewed or otherwise damaged too. I can’t believe that the ?weasels burrowed into frozen ground so this must have been autumn attempts and when I closed the peacocks in I removed their ability to escape from whatever it was.

Can anyone offer me thoughts on what I am dealing with and how to protect against it? We have decided to pour concrete in both habitats before reintroducing birds and I am building a larger fenced area and getting another dog. Any other thoughts?

I am stumped.

Christine
 
You may not want to read this, but I feel your entire setup is probably in need of a lot of rethinking. Just going off the information you've provided, your housing is inadequate, to say the least. Weasels and other predators are sneaky little bastards and require special precautions but are easily dealt with by taking proper steps to properly secure your livestock. We are all guilty of being to close to the project at some point in life and I feel you and your father may need an unbiased third set of eyes to walk around your area and make appropriate observations to correct if possible. Hard to really give any solidified advice as we can't see your setup and really no information is provided. If you haven't done so already, all those vents and openings need to be covered with Hardware Cloth, no bigger than 1/2" to start. Predator skirting used to be an option, this day in age it seems as a necessity. Without that dirt floors are just an invitation for burrowing animals such as mice, snakes, weasels, mink, chipmunks.
If you can post your area and setup that would be super helpful.
 
You are a "meat market" oasis in the middle of a huge population of wildlife. You are seriously over-matched at this point, but you seem to be climbing higher on your learning curve.

The first step is to educate yourself as to what meat eaters you share the environment with. Believe me, weasels are only the beginning. It can take a few years for all the wildlife to discover your "meat market", so don't wait until they drop in and introduce themselves. Learn what you have as neighbors before they come calling.

A concrete floor in the housing is a good start. The exercise yards need fencing (hardware cloth) buried at an outward angle along the entire fence perimeter to foil diggers. A cover on the pens can prevent hawks and owls. And an electric hot wire around the entire edifice will send bears, bobcats, coyotes, foxes, and raccoons back where they came from. Anything less, and you will continue to provide a free meat market for the wild animals.
 
You are a "meat market" oasis in the middle of a huge population of wildlife. You are seriously over-matched at this point, but you seem to be climbing higher on your learning curve.

The first step is to educate yourself as to what meat eaters you share the environment with. Believe me, weasels are only the beginning. It can take a few years for all the wildlife to discover your "meat market", so don't wait until they drop in and introduce themselves. Learn what you have as neighbors before they come calling.

A concrete floor in the housing is a good start. The exercise yards need fencing (hardware cloth) buried at an outward angle along the entire fence perimeter to foil diggers. A cover on the pens can prevent hawks and owls. And an electric hot wire around the entire edifice will send bears, bobcats, coyotes, foxes, and raccoons back where they came from. Anything less, and you will continue to provide a free meat market for the wild animals.
Side note, like your coop. Have some closer pictures of it?
 
I'm guessing that if they are not able to directly access your coop, weasels are entering through what sounds like multiple rat tunnels. Agreed, you will not have success unless you have concrete or hdw cloth completely covering your floor, and a skirt completely surrounding your coop/run. You also must cover all openings greater than 1/2" with hardware cloth. Sorry for your many losses.
 
Along with what others have said, I'm just going to add that you are probably dealing with more than one issue. Whatever the predator(s) is(are), I think you also are dealing with a human problem here. I've heard of big losses before. I have not heard of anyone losing 600 birds.

The second instance, in which all 300 simply disappear without trace, is the most unsettling to me. In addition to the necessary fortifications detailed by other posters, I would invest in a couple of trail cameras to get some images of whatever is going on with your birds.
 
Thank you. I agree with everything you have said. I will take pics of the coop but essentially it is a big rectangular box of 2 x 8s, plywood and a steel roof made from repurposed material. The adjacent room was originally for feed but became the wintering room for the peacocks because I protested the idea of keeping them in a room exposed to chicken droppings. I was concerned about blackhead.

To be honest, this is my first year of participating in my dad’s avian efforts so my learning curve has been steep. He is stubborn and has been implementing my recommendations half heartedly. We all know where we get with half measures. He has had success in the past raising birds and thinks he knows more than anyone. I reminded him that what may have worked on a different farm won’t work here, obviously. The carnivores we live with are intelligent, determined and hungry. My suggestions to him were almost exactly what you have said but he needs to hear it from others for it to sink in. It breaks my heart to see him go through this and I want to support him and help him build a better enclosure. The dream is to not have chickens but to raise more peafowl and pheasants but I have told him in no uncertain terms will I continue to support his efforts unless we build a veritable Fort Knox.

You are right that the second disappearance was the most unsettling. I’m convinced it was our neighbour’s kid who he has paid to help him with certain chores. This poor guy has a certain expensive substance issue and is an expert in rounding up birds. I’m not hostile to his plight as I am an RN but the padlock is now there to protect against such a contingency. I don’t have evidence that he did it but the absolute lack of evidence in the form of feathers, carcasses etc is indeed evidence in itself.

Again, many thanks for your frank, honest feedback. I will share it with him.
 
Thank you. I agree with everything you have said. I will take pics of the coop but essentially it is a big rectangular box of 2 x 8s, plywood and a steel roof made from repurposed material. The adjacent room was originally for feed but became the wintering room for the peacocks because I protested the idea of keeping them in a room exposed to chicken droppings. I was concerned about blackhead.

To be honest, this is my first year of participating in my dad’s avian efforts so my learning curve has been steep. He is stubborn and has been implementing my recommendations half-heartedly. We all know where we get with half measures. He has had success in the past raising birds and thinks he knows more than anyone. I reminded him that what may have worked on a different farm won’t work here, obviously. The carnivores we live with are intelligent, determined and hungry. My suggestions to him were almost exactly what you have said but he needs to hear it from others for it to sink in. It breaks my heart to see him go through this and I want to support him and help him build a better enclosure. The dream is to not have chickens but to raise more peafowl and pheasants but I have told him in no uncertain terms will I continue to support his efforts unless we build a veritable Fort Knox.

You are right that the second disappearance was the most unsettling. I’m convinced it was our neighbor’s kid who he has paid to help him with certain chores. This poor guy has a certain expensive substance issue and is an expert in rounding up birds. I’m not hostile to his plight as I am an RN but the padlock is now there to protect against such a contingency. I don’t have evidence that he did it but the absolute lack of evidence in the form of feathers, carcasses etc is indeed evidence in itself.

Again, many thanks for your frank, honest feedback. I will share it with him.
The cool thing about chickens is they are super easy... just have to do some things along the way to keep it easy. We all start someplace right? The difference between getting no place and some place is getting started! I think your dad is pride driven it seems if he is being stubborn about it, I do the same thing when my daughter is right. But, I like to think we all should be students our whole lives and with that, I improve. Once he understands doing the same thing and hoping for a different result is well...just that. Good luck and I hope you keep us updated.
 

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