Red Laced Blue Wyandotte?!

[DANNY]

It's been my experience with laced birds that you have to let them get a little older before you can tell much about them.

 

[RAREROO]

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I agree, they look like McMurray hatcheries stock. I had some MM BLRWs one time that I got from my friend.

Here is the roo, he looks a lot like the one on that site and as you can see, he has the wrong type and coloring too. A lot of brassiness instead of red like those on that site.

 

[adubsroit]

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No, I didn't. It's more all a starting off point, good stock or not, I wasn't assuming to have show-quality right off. That's no fun, lol.

 

[adubsroit]

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I agree, they look like McMurray hatcheries stock. I had some MM BLRWs one time that I got from my friend.

Here is the roo, he looks a lot like the one on that site and as you can see, he has the wrong type and coloring too. A lot of brassiness instead of red like those on that site.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/37373_100_5196.jpg

That bird really does blow, lol. Excuse the language. Good thing I have already been been put on a list for this coming spring, for BLRW bantams though.

Is it feasible to keep some of the birds (7 total) to possibly work with in the future? From what I have heard about breeding like this you breed the female to a good male and then exchange the original female with one of her female offspring. Would this work? With the quality of these birds I assume I'll do this only because cockerels have even less point. No need to inbreed bad genes.

By chance, and I assume so by word of mouth, but that Foley's birds are pretty darn good, right? What about Hodge's BLRW?

 

[RAREROO]

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I agree, they look like McMurray hatcheries stock. I had some MM BLRWs one time that I got from my friend.

Here is the roo, he looks a lot like the one on that site and as you can see, he has the wrong type and coloring too. A lot of brassiness instead of red like those on that site.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/37373_100_5196.jpg

That bird really does blow, lol. Excuse the language. Good thing I have already been been put on a list for this coming spring, for BLRW bantams though.

Is it feasible to keep some of the birds (7 total) to possibly work with in the future? From what I have heard about breeding like this you breed the female to a good male and then exchange the original female with one of her female offspring. Would this work? With the quality of these birds I assume I'll do this only because cockerels have even less point. No need to inbreed bad genes.

By chance, and I assume so by word of mouth, but that Foley's birds are pretty darn good, right? What about Hodge's BLRW?

That may way work if thats what you want to do since you already have them, I believe that ones you have and the ones I had that I posted are actually more like Blue laced Golden Wyandottes from hatcheries cutting corners and breeding to their more readily avaiable Golden laced Wyandottes, which lack the dark mohagany genes that the BLRs are supposed to have. So if you could find a good male to breed, I believe at least some percentage should pick up the mohagany genes and be darker like they are supposed to be. The lacing may still need some work though.

And yes from what I have seen Foley's has some nice ones as does Pauls Poultry.

 

[Katy]

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I agree, they look like McMurray hatcheries stock. I had some MM BLRWs one time that I got from my friend.

Here is the roo, he looks a lot like the one on that site and as you can see, he has the wrong type and coloring too. A lot of brassiness instead of red like those on that site.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/37373_100_5196.jpg

That bird really does blow, lol. Excuse the language. Good thing I have already been been put on a list for this coming spring, for BLRW bantams though.

Is it feasible to keep some of the birds (7 total) to possibly work with in the future? From what I have heard about breeding like this you breed the female to a good male and then exchange the original female with one of her female offspring. Would this work? With the quality of these birds I assume I'll do this only because cockerels have even less point. No need to inbreed bad genes.

By chance, and I assume so by word of mouth, but that Foley's birds are pretty darn good, right? What about Hodge's BLRW?

The problem with starting with poor stock and trying to work your way up is the amount of time it takes to get there and the amount of cull birds you'll have to feed. It costs you the same amount to feed good stock as it does poor. You don't have to start with show stock, but if you at least start with birds that have the potential to be good examples of the breed you're a couple steps ahead in the game instead of starting out at the bottom.

I've never heard of Hodges, but Jerry and Rebecca Foley have very good birds.

 

[adubsroit]

Good to know. Oh, and the culling good and bad birds.. I have some idea about that

MY boyfriend and I have been supplying many a laying birds to friends and community members. In the spring we have people already asking for our extras, and we live in a SMALL town so word gets around. Especially because we have opted to only raise heritage breeds (aside from d'Anvers) that do well in the cold/harsh Eastern Oregon climate. We're keeping stuff pretty small, we know it can leave room for all the what-ifs of what if we hatched more, but keeping everything down to trios for now.

College students breeding/feeding chickens means we know what budget means, lol.

 

[HBuehler]

Wow those pictures of that roo are why I didn't like them..Sadly when people call me on mine they are only used to those and think they are perfect.It's going to be a long road for you if you keep with that stock..can be done with lots of culling and chicks but really why? Here are 2 of mine from Foley's and they are not near perfect but if I must say so I agree with Jerry a real nice breeding pair...I have another trio from him as well.They do cost you to buy quality but your much further ahead in the long run and worth the money.Hard to tell with the pullet but she's beautifully laced..oh this pair is 6 months so not mature yet. I have some Hodges chicks..way too many single combs in there for my liking-verdict is still out on the quality but so far nothing is screaming wow but nothing screaming ugly duckling either.Red color is decent no oranges in the bunch

 

[adubsroit]

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In all honesty, the idea of working up to a bird seems like a lot of fun. I'm going to be 23 in about 2 weeks and figure I have more time than I ever will to spend on breeding birds. Also, according to the chicken calculator, a red BLRW over a gold BLRW should result in all BBS red progeny. Thing is, the progeny should not be bred to each other, otherwise the gold will show up again. Note that I do understand there is almost a 100% chance they will be shades of red.

Right now our breeding flock is right at 16 birds. 5 breeds (Chantecler, Delaware, Dominique, Wyandotte and d'Anver) total, after tons of discussion on what we really wanted to focus on. To cut-back on feed we created two large runs within their "range." On top of that, during the winter we chose to close off one half and have seeded clover, grasses and vetch to create a poultry pasture

Also, having just one small Brinsea incubator only holds 25 eggs at a time works in our favor in terms of keeping numbers down. Helping 5 other people rebuild laying flocks with our pullet culls is also a blessing. Starting at the bottom is a mater of perspective. Being a college student helps with stretching dollars, but good stock doesn't really owe itself well to college student budgets lol. BLRW are on the lower tier for now, more time is going into Chanteclers and Dominiques for now.

 

[Katy]

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In all honesty, the idea of working up to a bird seems like a lot of fun. I'm going to be 23 in about 2 weeks and figure I have more time than I ever will to spend on breeding birds. Also, according to the chicken calculator, a red BLRW over a gold BLRW should result in all BBS red progeny. Thing is, the progeny should not be bred to each other, otherwise the gold will show up again. Note that I do understand there is almost a 100% chance they will be shades of red.

Right now our breeding flock is right at 16 birds. 5 breeds (Chantecler, Delaware, Dominique, Wyandotte and d'Anver) total, after tons of discussion on what we really wanted to focus on. To cut-back on feed we created two large runs within their "range." On top of that, during the winter we chose to close off one half and have seeded clover, grasses and vetch to create a poultry pasture

Also, having just one small Brinsea incubator only holds 25 eggs at a time works in our favor in terms of keeping numbers down. Helping 5 other people rebuild laying flocks with our pullet culls is also a blessing. Starting at the bottom is a mater of perspective. Being a college student helps with stretching dollars, but good stock doesn't really owe itself well to college student budgets lol. BLRW are on the lower tier for now, more time is going into Chanteclers and Dominiques for now.

I've been breeding BLRW for several years now. I would avoid breeding anything with gold in it into your birds. You want to aim for the deep red mohagony ....and introducing any birds with gold in them keeps that gold color going in your birds and that is not what you want if you're serious about breeding them. Also you need to take into account the birds lacing. Breed birds with good lacing and color (not gold!!)....otherwise you're just adding to the slew of poorly colored and laced birds that are already floating around out there.