Red Laced Cornish X and project talk (pics p. 8)

[kfacres]

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I find my self doing the same, time and time again... but in my case it's the whites and the splashed colored birds that make my mouth water and bring a smile about..

Gary or Steve, what would you think about the WLR x BLR as being a possible for some splashed colored birds? I can't say I know what that genetic combo really works...

From what I've learned by reading, and a little experience, blue is a dilutant gene that works only on black. Its an incomplete dominate, so inheriting one copy from each parent gives the offspring two copies and it appears splash, inheriting only one copy ditutes the offspring to blue. Its possible a bird carrying dominate white could also be carrying blue underneath it; but I'm nearly positive the WLRs from me aren't.
Here's the way it's supposed to work.
Splash mated to splash = 100% splash
Blue mated to black = 50 % blue, 50% black
Blue mated to blue = 25 % black, 50% blue, 25% splash
Splash mated to black = 100% blue
Splash mated to blue = 50% blue, 50% splash

Since your WLRs carry one copy of dominate white instead of two, when crossed to the blue male that's with them, only 50% of the offspring will be patterned in white [though the white may be showing spots of black or blue.............. could even look just a little like splash] The other half will not inherit dominate white, so half of them will be black, the other half blue. Their patterning, or lack of it, is totally over my head.

that's the best way this little pea brained kid can understand it...

 

[SteveH]

that's the best way this little pea brained kid can understand it...

I've only been attempting to learn color genetics for chickens for the last couple of years, and have discovered my learning abilities have diminished a bit.

Here's a link for a color calculator. http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm#kipcalculator

I need to warn you that the results you get will not always match the realities of your breedings. The reason for this is that the genetic sequences on that site are not necessarily the same as what your birds are carrying. Those sequences are evidently the ideal one for each color, and you can still have the same visual color [say black] but a very different combination of genes than the one the calculator uses. Also, the term "unicolor" should not be mistaken to mean without bleed showing. Blue on that site is self blue, but here in this country most blues are supposed to be Andalusia blue. If you play with it, I suggest you pick a color for each parent then click the place where it says "to calculator" or something like that. That opens a different window where the calculation and others can be done, and also has examples of different colors there if you click " show examples". If the genetics carried by the parents creates a great number of possibilities, it will give you a warning that it may cause your computer to run slow.............................. I suggest you choose "cancel" at that point or you may find your computer locked up.

Have fun.​

 

[kfacres]

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As promised...

 

[big medicine]

Is your bird pea, or cushion combed ? Kind of hard to tell from the photos. Still don't know what to make of the color, looks to be a tweener. Appears to be somewhere between blue laced red and maybe double laced.

 

[kfacres]

Here lets try this... I hadn't noticed those tiny pics... These should be large enough to see something now.

 

[kfacres]

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Now that you mention it.. I think you are right about the comb.. I've always figured it as just a lack of development as compared to his older penmates... of course, now it makes sense... Guess that means I need to make a trip to Ohio, Gary...

Color is tween something all right, not a true laced, not double laced though I'm sure. More of a slightly blr.

 

[big medicine]

Looks to be single laced on shoulders, the chest feathers should be as well on a true single lace. The solid blue chest feathers lean toward double laced, or even partridge influence on males.

As to the comb, it does appear to be cushion, a combination of pea and rose combs. Which means he (and your sure it is male, right?) can still throw some good pea combed chicks with the WLR hens. The ones that don't get a proper pea comb, well it really don't matter much on the plate. Again back to the roll of the dice.

 

[kfacres]

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interesting... see what I get for picking your brain...

I'm sure he's a male.. his tail feathers are starting to come in, especially when viewed side by side with the 4 pullets.

I guess the double laced, actually showing as an absence... is new to me...

It will be a very interesting upcoming hatching season. One that I cannot wait to begin... Sure hope my bator and silkies are ready...

 

[Totalcolour]

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So, is there a "typical" hatching season? I know you can hatch all year but is there a better time than others, and for what reason? Are eggs more fertile, less, is hatch rate different etc...

Thanks

TC

 

[Totalcolour]

Ok, this is totally OT, but thought I'd ask anyway.

Was out last evening feeding with MGSU and he got severely attacked by mosquitoes. They NEVER bite me. By the time we got inside, his arms were swelling like crazy and we had run out of after-bite. Does anyone have any home remedies, or maybe something he could put on beforehand. We ended up using Windex but it has very little ammonia so it only helped a bit. I know some of you have some country wisdom