Red Laced Cornish X and project talk (pics p. 8)

[SteveH]

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My original plan [before I lost my breeders] was to make one of my crosses a hatchery sourced WLRC on my CX hens. I wasn't expecting the laced pattern to hold; I was looking to use the CX's dominate white gene to create a white Cornish type with bigger size and faster growth. I considered the same with my quality DCs, but the last of my CXs had quit laying and the two DC cockerals were killed right after they started breeding. I hatched the last egg known to be fertilized by those boys an hour ago; I have 10 WLRs from the hatchery hens under the DCs, and one black DC/Ameraucana chick with very meager muffs. LOL

ETA: Depending on what's being carried under the dominate white, I would not expect their offspring to show much if any lacing; I think recessive white might if they carried the right patterning gene along with the white........................... but I'm not experienced enough to know.

 

[big medicine]

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That can happen.......... but a better choice and a more reliable one to get better color the first time would be a White Cornish Rooster over a Dark Cornish hen. and then the F-1's will be single laced as opposed to dbl laced, line breeding both WLR offspring will then get you the more desirable dbl lacing.

AL

From my experience, white Cornish are recessive white, usually masking dark Cornish. Crossing a white to a pure dark should produce all dark looking chicks that carry a single copy of recessive white. Breeding these chicks back to white should produce half white and half dark looking chicks again carrying a single copy of rec. white.

 

[chickened]

Is his name Steve?

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The guy standing next to Waldo in this picture is rumored to have some he will sell.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/44349_wheres-waldo1.jpg

 

[WhiteMountainsRanch]

Here's my experience thus far:

I recently processed "Dual Purpose" chickens from Hatchery AND Breeder and was VERY disappointed in how little meat was on the carcasses.

I've also processed Cornish x which were franken-chickens. Nice and big with good meat, I even tried keeping some to breeding age, but none really lasted that long. I think I COULD have had a few females make it to laying eggs but probably not much beyond that. They eat a lot and I didn't restrict their feed enough. My customers liked these ones the best.

And have also done Red Broilers which were bigger than the DP's but not by much, overall I wasn't very happy with those ones.

My Freedom Rangers are coming next week and I am having high hopes for them.

My plan is to take my Katy's Secret Mix (KSM) males and put them over my current Red Broiler Females, my Freedom Ranger females, and of course my KSM females.

Can't wait to start hatching from these mixes!

 

[knjinnm]

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Hi Al,
Any chance your friend can join this blog to post updates and pictures of project meat birds?
Joe

 

[NevadaRon]

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Were the Red Broilers from Ideal? I was considering those for my first foray.

 

[WhiteMountainsRanch]

Yes they were from Ideal. Overall they were ok. I got 14 and out of those 1 had lung/ heart problems, 1 had toe/ wing problems, and the rest were VERY varied. That's the part I didn't like, some were really big and grew fast some were pretty small. The females are tiny. If you want them for meat get all males. They only had SLIGHTLY more meat than a dual purpose. They were ok overall. On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being skinny scrawny dual purpose and 10 being big fat cornish I would have given them a 4.

 

[KatyTheChickenLady]

KSM . . . I like that

Sticking with Idaho Red Rangers though
This new batch is the friendliest chicks I have ever had.

 

[SteveH]

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That can happen.......... but a better choice and a more reliable one to get better color the first time would be a White Cornish Rooster over a Dark Cornish hen. and then the F-1's will be single laced as opposed to dbl laced, line breeding both WLR offspring will then get you the more desirable dbl lacing.

AL

From my experience, white Cornish are recessive white, usually masking dark Cornish. Crossing a white to a pure dark should produce all dark looking chicks that carry a single copy of recessive white. Breeding these chicks back to white should produce half white and half dark looking chicks again carrying a single copy of rec. white.

Are WLRCs dominate white with a modifier for double lacing? [My DCs over hatchery sourced WLRC hens produced chicks that appear to be all WLRs, but it remains to be seen how well the lacing is expressed. From what I see in pictures, the double lacing on WLRs is often poor.]

 

[SteveH]

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The guy standing next to Waldo in this picture is rumored to have some he will sell.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/44349_wheres-waldo1.jpg

I made that joke because I spent over a year trying to find someone willing to sell either a White or White Laced Red Cornish; and settled for someone willing to part with two Dark Cornish cockerals. During that time, I discovered most large fowl Cornish breeders will not sell birds to a common Joe like myself; and true White Cornish are very difficult to find................. and those few who have them will not sell. I put those two DC cockerals I finally purchased over some hatchery sourced WLRCs, Ameraucanas, and EEs. The DCs failed to breed successfully untill they were just shy of one year; at which time buffalo gnats killed them and most of my flock.