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I agree with you Dan. Plus the breeding of the two to each other will most likely not reproduce true to this color in their offspring. I would normally say take a BO to a RIR and see what you get. BUT, you would have to hatch huge numbers and be dedicated to that project to get one or two with type and the looser feathering. Plus the RIR would have yellow legs, which will breed out in 5 out of 6 of their offspring to white skin, so that is not a major issue IF one wants to do a Red Orp project with RIRs. I think type is the big road block for either using SS or RIR to a big Buff Orp. Or just go to UK and buy an English Red and bring it back.