Regarding the Horses in our lives...

[paintedChix]

took these of Mouse yesterday. introducing 2 geldings who have been unable to get along since being gelded over 2 years ago. Finally yesterday they accepted each other. Left a lunge line on the one in case of having to rescue one from the other and I was out there the whole time with them. Only one fight broke out that I had to intervene. The rest were a couple kicks and over with.

It's great that they are finally starting to get along.

I know how that goes, I have several that don't get along well and we've spent time reorganizing pastures or pasture turn out time to accommodate them.

 

[perchie.girl]

Happy Holidays

 

[Bunnylady]

*sigh* Spotted this ad on Craigslist . . . .


If you would like to come ride a sweet docile horse give me a call or text at __________. It's a great Christmas gift for children and family of all ages. There is pasture rides and fun trail rides with Page's Creek view. I can lead an inexperienced rider or child if preferred. If you would like to come just to spend quality time grooming and learning about horses, that would be fine as well. I am just a young girl trying to keep up with my boarding and feeding bills for my horses.
$20 for half an hour.
$30 for hour.
The horse looks eerily familiar to me . . . probably because it's this horse:


Maybe you recognize her - I posted this picture earlier in this thread. While I give the girl credit for trying to offset the cost of keeping her, I wouldn't care to go trail riding on a 3-year-old that had been trained by a 16-year-old who had maybe 6 lessons when she was 10 and knows it all.

 

[Cagematmidnight]

Hi,here's my two boys.
Buzz and Buddy.
Buzz is a thoroughbred/appaloosa cross. He's 23, and has uveitis in both eyes.
Buddy is a POA, 15, with cataracts in his eyes.
Both boys are the best of friends, and we still go out on rides together.

 

[perchie.girl]

*sigh* Spotted this ad on Craigslist . . . .


If you would like to come ride a sweet docile horse give me a call or text at __________. It's a great Christmas gift for children and family of all ages. There is pasture rides and fun trail rides with Page's Creek view. I can lead an inexperienced rider or child if preferred. If you would like to come just to spend quality time grooming and learning about horses, that would be fine as well. I am just a young girl trying to keep up with my boarding and feeding bills for my horses.
$20 for half an hour.
$30 for hour.
The horse looks eerily familiar to me . . . probably because it's this horse:


Maybe you recognize her - I posted this picture earlier in this thread. While I give the girl credit for trying to offset the cost of keeping her, I wouldn't care to go trail riding on a 3-year-old that had been trained by a 16-year-old who had maybe 6 lessons when she was 10 and knows it all.

sigh... in my opinion... three is too young to be backed for more than twenty minutes at a time. I didn't Start my gelding till he was three. and now after knowing horse physiology better I would have waited longer.

Though I have met some OUTSTANDING sixteen year olds were were very competent riders (with training). We can only hope the horse does well and no one gets hurt.

deb

 

[perchie.girl]

Hi,here's my two boys.
Buzz and Buddy.
Buzz is a thoroughbred/appaloosa cross. He's 23, and has uveitis in both eyes.
Buddy is a POA, 15, with cataracts in his eyes.
Both boys are the best of friends, and we still go out on rides together.

Welcome to the group and to BYC

from San Diego.

Your guys look Great. I met a quarter horse about forty years ago who was a Western Pleasure show horse. Completely blind. He had a special padded stall to keep him from accidents. But she said he was fabulous in the show ring. Do you put a bell on the POA to help your big guy know where he is?

I have heard this is a useful tool... kind of makes the Pony a seeing eye horse. Cataracts still allow them to see light and dark.

Believe it or not Cataract surgery has been done on horses. Beyond my ability to pay for but an interesting thought any way.

deb

 

[Bunnylady]

sigh... in my opinion... three is too young to be backed for more than twenty minutes at a time. I didn't Start my gelding till he was three. and now after knowing horse physiology better I would have waited longer.

Though I have met some OUTSTANDING sixteen year olds were were very competent riders (with training). We can only hope the horse does well and no one gets hurt.

deb

This girl was taking this horse over low jumps when the horse was 2 1/2 (in spite of being told not to jump her until she was 4 by several people). Once, when she was riding in the pasture, the horse bolted on her. It was scary - the horse slipped in a muddy spot and they both went somersaulting. As she had only been riding with a halter and lead up to that point, her "solution" was to put a bit in the horse's mouth. Since she didn't have a bridle of her own, she was going to borrow one belonging to the barn owner - which had a curb bit. And no, this girl had never ridden Western in her life; had no idea how to neck rein.

I think the ad may be an act of desperation on her part - her mother (who knows next to nothing about horses) may be making noises about reducing costs and selling the horse. Sad, but when you have a kid that knows very little and who won't listen, it might really be the best thing for the horse.

 

[paintedChix]

I was going to stand up for the "kid" - until you added the background...

I was giving beginner rider lessons at the age of 13, but I was also taking more advanced lessons myself. I rode both western and hunt seat and showed in open shows and a hand full of rated H/J shows. The $$ I earned from giving the lessons that I gave, paid for my own more advanced lessons AND the showing. I worked with a variety of trainers/instructors from the ages of 12-21 - western horsemen/women, hunt seat and dressage (several were international competitors or had trained themselves w/ big name trainers/schools). We had and also started other horses at the ages of 18-24 months but I was a pretty small girl at that time and they didn't get jumped or worked excessively hard or for long periods of time. They were started for about 30-45 days of ground driving and riding, then turned out for a year. Brought back in and did another 90 days or so of under saddle work after they turned 3, then back out to "turn out". Our personal horses didn't have large pastures (we only had 6 acres), but they weren't stalled while allowed to grow and be babies. Several years we were able to pasture where I started colts for a couple of other trainers - so they were out w/ other horses their own ages and running/jumping/playing... The 2 yr olds didn't get a lot of pasture riding, but the 3s on up - did in the time frame they were up and being worked. I don't remember anything we had being started over cavaletti or jumped until 5/6 yrs of age. However - if a bush or ditch was in the field, WE DID JUMP that - even on a 3 yr old, but we didn't go out of our way to do it or make a regular practice of it... Just as often, the horse was stopped and asked to step one step at a time down into the ditch and up the other side. A 3 yr old also had a rope swung from his back and might be asked to stop and back when a yucca plant was roped (there were LOTS in CO then). I didn't ever rope any cattle off of any young horses myself - didn't have the cattle and really didn't have the hand/eye coordination either then.

Miss the "cowboy way"... though I generally was starting our ponies that way when my children were riding. Currently our grandchildren aren't riding yet, so ponies are going almost to maturity right now before getting a lot of ground driving due to time/work constraints and still working on getting everything set up here on this new property. It was EXCITING to me, to finally finish the round pen my SIL and I started putting up in March! Have a 5 yr old gelding who hasn't yet been introduced to harness or started ground driving yet and his pasture mate that was started ground driving and pulling "logs" at 3 yrs of age - who has yet to be hitched to a wheeled vehicle! He's going to be 6 in Feb...

 

[perchie.girl]

I was going to stand up for the "kid" - until you added the background...

I was giving beginner rider lessons at the age of 13, but I was also taking more advanced lessons myself. I rode both western and hunt seat and showed in open shows and a hand full of rated H/J shows. The $$ I earned from giving the lessons that I gave, paid for my own more advanced lessons AND the showing. I worked with a variety of trainers/instructors from the ages of 12-21 - western horsemen/women, hunt seat and dressage (several were international competitors or had trained themselves w/ big name trainers/schools). We had and also started other horses at the ages of 18-24 months but I was a pretty small girl at that time and they didn't get jumped or worked excessively hard or for long periods of time. They were started for about 30-45 days of ground driving and riding, then turned out for a year. Brought back in and did another 90 days or so of under saddle work after they turned 3, then back out to "turn out". Our personal horses didn't have large pastures (we only had 6 acres), but they weren't stalled while allowed to grow and be babies. Several years we were able to pasture where I started colts for a couple of other trainers - so they were out w/ other horses their own ages and running/jumping/playing... The 2 yr olds didn't get a lot of pasture riding, but the 3s on up - did in the time frame they were up and being worked. I don't remember anything we had being started over cavaletti or jumped until 5/6 yrs of age. However - if a bush or ditch was in the field, WE DID JUMP that - even on a 3 yr old, but we didn't go out of our way to do it or make a regular practice of it... Just as often, the horse was stopped and asked to step one step at a time down into the ditch and up the other side. A 3 yr old also had a rope swung from his back and might be asked to stop and back when a yucca plant was roped (there were LOTS in CO then). I didn't ever rope any cattle off of any young horses myself - didn't have the cattle and really didn't have the hand/eye coordination either then.

Miss the "cowboy way"... though I generally was starting our ponies that way when my children were riding. Currently our grandchildren aren't riding yet, so ponies are going almost to maturity right now before getting a lot of ground driving due to time/work constraints and still working on getting everything set up here on this new property. It was EXCITING to me, to finally finish the round pen my SIL and I started putting up in March! Have a 5 yr old gelding who hasn't yet been introduced to harness or started ground driving yet and his pasture mate that was started ground driving and pulling "logs" at 3 yrs of age - who has yet to be hitched to a wheeled vehicle! He's going to be 6 in Feb...

EXCELLENT. there is the difference. At thirteen you were actively learning and under advanced tutelage.

If you take a look at the Lippazons and how they are raised for the Vienna Riding school. They too are broke at two schooled in manners long lining and light righding. Then turned out a year brought in for schooling periodically then finally at four they start their education.

All the while they learn to buck and fart and play halter tag and it hurts to fall down... over every surface imaginable. But they just get to be horses. INvaluable lessons that cant be touched by anyone other than other horses.

My mare wasnt hitched to a vehicle till she was seven. By design on my part. I failed her in not being able to give her the miles and true education she needed. But she will have a home with me for life.

deb

 

[paintedChix]

THANX, Deb.

Yes, it does make a difference. I love the way a lot of European horses and of course, the western horses or breeders w/ large pastures raise their babies...