Results of buff orp rooster over lav orp hen?

funkeke

In the Brooder
Sep 28, 2021
11
15
39
I'm new to chicken genetics and trying to learn. I'm curious about an unusual pairing. We received 4 Orpington eggs from a friend from a buff Orpington rooster over a lavender Orpington hen. I believe the hen was cuckoo barred. I say "I believe" because I can't quite confirm it from the photos I have of her--lav cuckoo seems pretty subtle. But based on how her male offspring came out, I think she must be cuckoo.

Here's a couple pics of the parents (best I've got):

daddy-n-mama-orps-2.jpg

daddy-n-mama-orps.jpg


Our eggs hatched as two males and two females. Both males turned out to be black with barring and a lot of white, with some random scattered buff feathers. I'm not sure if their barring is considered cuckoo; they still have their adolescent feathers that grew pretty fast which would affect the barring. The females both turned out black and red, with primarily black head and tails. One female is quite dilute and one not dilute at all.

The two cockerels, aged 12 weeks, Isaac (whiter neck) and Shepard below. Basically two peas in a pod.

20211022_133527.jpg

20211022_133519.jpg



The two pullets, also aged 12 weeks, Morrigan (dilute) and Spooky (not-dilute) below. Spooky has almost entirely deep black tail and head, whereas on Morrigan the red color is spread out much more. They both have a very similar neck/ruff in color and intensity.

20211022_133456.jpg
20211020_183004.jpg


I would like to know how to classify these chicken patterns/colors. Also, if I were to breed two of these chickens back to each other, what kind of results could I expect? I believe I could get black, black barred, lav, lav barred, and possibly something mostly red, like buff or lemon (less clear on this). I'm not sure what the percentage chance of each phenotype would be.
 

Attachments

  • 20211022_133527.jpg
    20211022_133527.jpg
    733.7 KB · Views: 4
  • 20211022_133519.jpg
    20211022_133519.jpg
    684.2 KB · Views: 5
  • 20211022_133456.jpg
    20211022_133456.jpg
    748.9 KB · Views: 5
I will guess that the hen carry E-black and Er - birchen. This shows in the girls. The light one is typical single copy birchen and wheaten, with added columbian and dark brown.
The other girl is E-extended black and wheaten, with added columbian and Db ( dark brown). Understandably they carry Di diluters and other genes.
The boys appear Silver Birchen.
 
Thank you for the info! If both boys are silver birchen, is there a genetic reason to explain why one has a whiter neck? Or is it just a simple difference between individual birds?
 
I will guess that the hen carry E-black and Er - birchen. This shows in the girls. The light one is typical single copy birchen and wheaten, with added columbian and dark brown.
The other girl is E-extended black and wheaten, with added columbian and Db ( dark brown). Understandably they carry Di diluters and other genes.
The boys appear Silver Birchen.
He is actually E/E extended black homozygote, but the F1s are E/eWh Co/co+ that combination gives rise to Pseudo Birchen looking birds
 
He is actually E/E extended black homozygote
Are you referring to daddy buff? Wouldn't that make him... black? I've read that the buff phenotype isn't fully understood, so it is possible for a buff to be E/E but still appear buff?
 
Gotcha, you said "he" is E/E so it confused me. The lav parent is the hen.
 

New posts New threads Active threads

Back
Top Bottom