Rhode Island Red yes or no?

[gojira]

The rooster looks as expected with a dominant white bird crossed on a red bird, but the female does not. Are you sure one parent was full white leghorn? If so, the female should not have black tail feathers. Or was one parent a hybrid containing White Leghorn? I have direct offspring of Rhode Island Red x White Leghorn, and they are solid white, and their tails are different than the ones in the photos you show. Are the two birds you are showing siblings? I thought you said in a post in another thread that you could not have a rooster?

 

[waddles99]

The rooster looks as expected with a dominant white bird crossed on a red bird, but the female does not. Are you sure one parent was full white leghorn? If so, the female should not have black tail feathers. Or was one parent a hybrid containing White Leghorn? I have direct offspring of Rhode Island Red x White Leghorn, and they are solid white, and their tails are different than the ones in the photos you show. Are the two birds you are showing siblings? I thought you said in a post in another thread that you could not have a rooster?

I meant I cannot have another rooster, since I already have one. The pictures are not of the exact birds. I googled them and picked up the ones that looked the most like them. I know for a fact what the parents are, the two birds are siblings. The rooster exhibits sort of complete dominance with its color, and the hens exhibit sort of codominance.

 

[gojira]

I meant I cannot have another rooster, since I already have one. The pictures are not of the exact birds. I googled them and picked up the ones that looked the most like them. I know for a fact what the parents are, the two birds are siblings. The rooster exhibits sort of complete dominance with its color, and the hens exhibit sort of codominance.

So you still really have no proof? Who bred the birds that you have? How do you know for a fact what the parents are? The rooster exhibits sort of complete dominance of what? The hen exhibits sort of codominance of what? In genetics, there is no sort of. Just curious, if you can only have one rooster, why would you choose to keep a mixed rooster, instead of a rooster you can use to reproduce?

 

[waddles99]

So you still really have no proof? Who bred the birds that you have? How do you know for a fact what the parents are? The rooster exhibits sort of complete dominance of what? The hen exhibits sort of codominance of what? In genetics, there is no sort of. Just curious, if you can only have one rooster, why would you choose to keep a mixed rooster, instead of a rooster you can use to reproduce?

The birds were bred by the person I keep my chickens with, so I know for a fact what the parents were. The rooster exhibits a complete dominance of a white phenotype, whereas the hens exhibit a codominance of a white and red phenotype. And I can't get another rooster, since the person I keep chickens with wants to keep it.

 

[gojira]

The birds were bred by the person I keep my chickens with, so I know for a fact what the parents were. The rooster exhibits a complete dominance of a white phenotype, whereas the hens exhibit a codominance of a white and red phenotype. And I can't get another rooster, since the person I keep chickens with wants to keep it.

Just curious, where were the parents obtained? The male seems reasonable, but the picture you posted of the female does not. The pictures you posted look like Red Sex links, but from two different crosses. It seems you do not understand the term dominance. Which loci are you suggesting are showing codominance? If the rooster exhibited a complete dominance of dominant white, he would be completely white with no leakage. If the hen were showing codominance, she would look like the rooster.

 

[waddles99]

Just curious, where were the parents obtained?  The male seems reasonable, but the picture you posted of the female does not.  The pictures you posted look like Red Sex links, but from two different crosses.  It seems you do not understand the term dominance.  Which loci are you suggesting are showing codominance?  If the rooster exhibited a complete dominance of dominant white, he would be completely white with no leakage.  If the hen were showing codominance, she would look like the rooster.

I don't know where the parents were obtained from, they weren't my chickens. But I trust they were obtained from a good source. I'm truly not trying to be condescending or rude, I'm truly curious as to what these chickens came from if you think they would look different, because I'm sure the rooster and hens are brother and sister yet look different.

 

[Tonibe]

Yes

 

[dvoice]

Yes

LOL. And all this started discussing hatchery compared to breeders of heritage stock. Most larger hatcheries do not sell PB heritage stock. Look at the Americana they pass off as Ameraucana!

 

[ejcrist]

Oh another one?! I probably raised the fake Plymouth Barred Rock.

Don't sweat it too much. I've been raising fake chickens for the last year too and felt the same way when I found out. On the bright side their eggs are awfully good and other people don't know they're not real Barred Rocks. We'll just have to find a good breeder and take it from there - chalk it up to a lesson learned.

 

[ejcrist]

I totally understand the issue about hatcheries not selectively breeding and as a result producing birds that don't meet the standards. I also remember reading somewhere about egg contest competitors introducing Leghorn blood to their birds to give them an edge in the contests, and the fact that a lot of hatchery RIR's have some Leghorn traits supports the notion that hatcheries have done this too or possibly started with RIR's that had Leghorn blood introduced somewhere in their history. Bearing that in mind, do you think the current Leghorns offered by hatcheries are probably the most pure of all their offerings since Leghorns are one of the best layers out there? If egg production is one of the driving influences I think they would be. My hatchery Leghorns obviously weren't bred to the standard but they look much closer to it than my Barred Rocks do to their standard.