Rooster Lethargic with Watery Poop and Dark Comb

[Eggcessive]

Welcome to BYC black__fleet. I agree with removing the ACV, red pepper flakes, and also I would remove the cracked corn or other whole grains. When there is a crop disorder, whole grains can be difficult to digest.Wyorp Rock has given good advice about using SafeGuard. Wazine is not necessary to use first, even though there may be some very old posts here on BYC to do so.

You obviously love this guy, and I hope that you can get him back to feeling better. Crop disorders, especially in hens can be a real pain to treat, but hopefully if this is his main problem, he will get better with treatment.

Do you have granite grit available for the chickens to take as they need it? I don’t know if anyone else thinks that putting Corid in the water for 5 days might be a good idea. Since many times we don’t always know what is always going on until something bad happens, we tend to want to attack it from all sides. It is important to know if his crop seems full and firm or doughy or puffy when diagnosing a crop problem. Hope the Govnah starts feeling better soon.

 

[black_fleet]

Welcome to BYC black__fleet. I agree with removing the ACV, red pepper flakes, and also I would remove the cracked corn or other whole grains. When there is a crop disorder, whole grains can be difficult to digest.Wyorp Rock has given good advice about using SafeGuard. Wazine is not necessary to use first, even though there may be some very old posts here on BYC to do so.

You obviously love this guy, and I hope that you can get him back to feeling better. Crop disorders, especially in hens can be a real pain to treat, but hopefully if this is his main problem, he will get better with treatment.

Do you have granite grit available for the chickens to take as they need it? I don’t know if anyone else thinks that putting Corid in the water for 5 days might be a good idea. Since many times we don’t always know what is always going on until something bad happens, we tend to want to attack it from all sides. It is important to know if his crop seems full and firm or doughy or puffy when diagnosing a crop problem. Hope the Govnah starts feeling better soon.

Thank you for your kind words and advice.

I do not provide my flock with any sort of grit, as I thought since they spend so much time foraging in the fields and yard that the sand and dirt they ingest would do the trick. However, I suppose having it available anyway couldn't do any harm, could it?

As far as the Corid goes, I see TSC carries it and could get some in the morning.

I will also pay extra attention to his crop and how it feels when I check him in the morning. He seemed alive enough when I put him to bed, and he ended up at least eating a small amount of the slurry I prepared for him. I'm about to go remove the food for the evening.

 

[Eggcessive]

A 50 pound bag of grit is $10 at TSC, and it lasts forever if you keep it dry in a can. They also sell a small bag for almost as much, LOL. I have tiny rocks in my soil as well, but mine still take some of the grit when it is left in a pan. It won’t hurt. Corid is vety safe, even for your other chickens in case you use it. Dosage is 10 ml (2 tsp) per gallon of water, changed daily for 5 days.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Alright, I've given him two rounds of coconut oil, maybe 1/2-3/4 of a teaspoon each time (he was a bit fussy, esp during the second feeding). After each dose I gave him a light massage as indicated in the link above for around 5-10 minutes. Whatever I felt earlier when I was checking his crop, I cannot find now. Additionally, he has pooped five more times since this morning, the first few still pretty watery, but the last few each have more and more solid matter in them. Color wise, they look much the same, greenish yellow solid matter and then the water, but maybe a bit more white in them now. I can provide pictures if it would be helpful.

He hasn't eaten much of the crumble, but is now up in his cage and seemingly much more alert. This could just be the time of day though as he knows usually he would begin heading to the roost relatively soon. I haven't administered the first round of wormer, but will be doing so shortly. Thank you guys for all the help so far.

I don’t know if anyone else thinks that putting Corid in the water for 5 days might be a good idea. Since many times we don’t always know what is always going on until something bad happens, we tend to want to attack it from all sides.

I agree, the Corid won't hurt

@black_fleet you will find out here on BYC ER Forums we never turn down poop photos, so if you have 'em bring 'em on

It's good that he is able to poop and it's looking a bit more solid. Let us know how the crop feels in the morning. I hope he's better then.
Keep in mind, crop issues can sometimes take a few days to resolve or they can re-occur, depending on the cause.

 

[black_fleet]

I am going to pick some Corid and grit up today at the supply store.

The Gov'nah! doesn't seem in too poor of shape this morning. He is alert and up, crowing to the flock regularly like he usually does. He pooped a few times through the night, all of them much more solid and capped in white.

I examined his crop and it seems pretty hard and roughly the size of a golf ball. I have put some fresh wet food in his enclosure, and will give him a scrambled egg today. I'm planning on continuing the coconut oil doses and massages as well.

I've started him on the deworming medication, will continue to do so for the full five day period.

That's about it for my status update this morning, thanks for all the help so far everyone!

 

[Shadrach]

How much calcium is in the crumble you feed?

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I examined his crop and it seems pretty hard and roughly the size of a golf ball. I have put some fresh wet food in his enclosure, and will give him a scrambled egg today. I'm planning on continuing the coconut oil doses and massages as well.

The poop is firming up a little!
So, the crop was hard this morning before he ate/drank?
Coconut oil and massages will be good. It sounds like he may have an bit of a blockage too. See if you can break up what's in the crop - manipulate that golf ball a little. If it's not moving, you can give him 1 stool softener (stimulant free!). Wait about 30-45 minutes after you give that to him, then massage really well and then again through out the day.

 

[black_fleet]

How much calcium is in the crumble you feed?

I'm afraid I don't know and don't seem to be able to find out via the bag or Google. We've been using Manna Pro Family Farms Egg Maker 50# and mix some cracked corn in as well. The flock seems to prefer the bugs in the yard, the corn, and then the crumble, in that order. I had figured it was a color thing with the corn.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I'm afraid I don't know and don't seem to be able to find out via the bag or Google. We've been using Manna Pro Family Farms Egg Maker 50# and mix some cracked corn in as well. The flock seems to prefer the bugs in the yard, the corn, and then the crumble, in that order. I had figured it was a color thing with the corn.

Got photo of the bag?
That's one of those hard to find on google
It's a "complete" poultry feed instead of the egg maker "supplement" correct?

 

[black_fleet]

Got photo of the bag?
That's one of those hard to find on google
It's a "complete" poultry feed instead of the egg maker "supplement" correct?

I can take pictures of the entire bag, front and back, if needed, but here is the feed via Walmarts website: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Manna-Pr...5-Layer-Crumbles-Chicken-Feed-50-lbs/39087244