Rooster question regarding Pinless Peepers

[HeatherKellyB]

Thanks, they are starting a batchlore flock so they may just be able to keep there distance, but what about the Piness Peepers? Will they work to help with the aggression, and if they will, will they hurt the chicken? I have kinda avoided them because they go in the chickens nostrils, can the bird still breathe? If it will help, then they are willing to try it, before a delicious pot of Rooster noodle soup, so any suggestions are helpful! But I would like to help them out! Thanks everyone! Avery

I have looked into pinless peepers, but honestly it looks like it could annoy the aggressive bird more. Of course I don't have experience with them, so take my word for what it's worth (nothing, hahaha)! I've kept information about them in the back of my mind to use in extreme cases of pecking. From what I've read, they CAN be safe and they CAN be useful for peckers (haha). I wouldn't want to add stress to an already aggressive rooster since that can make things worse. Best wishes to your friend.

 

[Chicalina]

let us know how you get on

 

[HeatherKellyB]

Has more to do with the keepers behaviors than the cockerels.

Agree 100%! My 8 year old daughter and I caused Le'Shawn to be a jerk, but I have tried so hard to mend the relationship and in my case, once the relationship is broke (he has absolutely no respect for us whatsoever) it's not always possible to fix. It takes a lot of work and I have tried, but my (just turned 9 years old) daughter doesn't have the frame of mind needed to deal with him. I don't fault either one of them. It's all on me and I accept that. They were our very first chickens and although we respected them, only one of them respects me back. That guy is an amazing rooster and seems to be an intelligent bird. Best wishes and @Weeg please tell your friends to be open to learn as much as they can because it will help. Knowledge is power, really

 

[Weeg]

I have looked into pinless peepers, but honestly it looks like it could annoy the aggressive bird more. Of course I don't have experience with them, so take my word for what it's worth (nothing, hahaha)! I've kept information about them in the back of my mind to use in extreme cases of pecking. From what I've read, they CAN be safe and they CAN be useful for peckers (haha). I wouldn't want to add stress to an already aggressive rooster since that can make things worse. Best wishes to your friend.

I have always avoided them because of the fact that they go in the nostrils, it seems like torture! I am not planning on using them and am gonna use @Chicalina 's approach, thank for all the help!

 

[Weeg]

Thanks to the both of you! You have been the most helpful on this thread, I personally didn't find Shadrach very helpful. Thanks again, Avery

 

[aart]

I always think this about dogs that are aggressive. Often it has gone too far for the dog to be saved, because they have bitten someone badly. It is almost always the owner's fault, not the dog's.

.....or even just 'disobedient'(bad manners), but yes.

I personally didn't find @Shadrach very helpful.

He was being brutally honest, you just didn't want to hear it.

 

[margaretbyrd]

Sorry but if a rooster was coming at me or his owners with his spurs, he would be gone.

I agree. I don't keep any animal that is aggressive. Don't want to breed that into my group. While he's young he'll be wonderful in canned chicken.

 

[margaretbyrd]

This is just how I do things, but you should have handled him more. Sorry, but I've held my 2 roos here to the point where someone can actually cuddle them.

Chickens are food here. I don't "handle" them at all. Any that are aggressive are in the soup pot.

Some animals are fearful, or mean, or dangerous just because that is their nature no matter how they have been raised. It doesn't automatically mean they were abused or neglected. Sometimes they were just born with a bad temperament. I never breed any animal that has a bad temperament otherwise you pass that along to the next generation. That's how breeds were developed. Finding traits you prefer in specific animals and breeding those animals.

 

[Chicalina]

Chickens are food here. I don't "handle" them at all. Any that are aggressive are in the soup pot.

Some animals are fearful, or mean, or dangerous just because that is their nature no matter how they have been raised. It doesn't automatically mean they were abused or neglected. Sometimes they were just born with a bad temperament. I never breed any animal that has a bad temperament otherwise you pass that along to the next generation. That's how breeds were developed. Finding traits you prefer in specific animals and breeding those animals.

I think this shows a fundamental lack of understanding of animal behaviour.

No animal is "mean", that is a purely human trait we project onto them to rationalise behaviour they show which we don't like. And that behaviour 9 times out of 10 is down to us, our treatment of the animal and the situation we put it in.

A rooster that is showing perfectly natural protective, hormonal, inept, fearful or competitive behaviour (by showing aggression, albeit often misplaced) is not being deliberately spiteful to you or the hens. It is just being an animal. And often it is reacting to something we have done which they have perceived in a certain way.

By all means, kill and cook and don't breed your roosters who display behaviour you don't like, that is your perogative, but please don't assign human motives to them like "meanness", don't avoid all your responsibility for their behaviour and don't castigate them for just being roosters.

 

[PhilSanchez]

Agree 100%! My 8 year old daughter and I caused Le'Shawn to be a jerk, but I have tried so hard to mend the relationship and in my case, once the relationship is broke (he has absolutely no respect for us whatsoever) it's not always possible to fix. It takes a lot of work and I have tried, but my (just turned 9 years old) daughter doesn't have the frame of mind needed to deal with him. I don't fault either one of them. It's all on me and I accept that. They were our very first chickens and although we respected them, only one of them respects me back. That guy is an amazing rooster and seems to be an intelligent bird. Best wishes and @Weeg please tell your friends to be open to learn as much as they can because it will help. Knowledge is power, really

Trying to put together intelligent and rooster in the same sentence Please don’t be offended simply thought it funny, Phil