Roughly 4.5 month old pair of Lavender Orpingtons.

[ecchastang]

Acquired these two about 6 weeks ago and they were supposed to be about 3 months old then. Gandalf (bigger one) was supposed to be a roo and Arwen was a hen. Now not sure either way. No crowing or other Roo signs from either of them. Thoughts?

 

[TheOddOneOut]

Boys

 

[3KillerBs]

I *think* that at least one is male, but really cannot see the saddle feathers well enough to tell for sure.

 

[ecchastang]

Which one?

 

[3KillerBs]

Which one?

Either or both. And I can't articulate why I think so because I normally rely on the saddle feathers for any birds over about 12 weeks. It's an indefinable impression, which could be wrong.

Can you get closeup photos of the saddle feathers -- with your hand or a piece of paper under them so that the true shape can show despite the shredding?

 

[ColtHandorf]

Both are undeniably cockerels. The nerd in me wants to say serves you right for not having Aragorn and Arwen. lol

 

[ecchastang]

Either or both. And I can't articulate why I think so because I normally rely on the saddle feathers for any birds over about 12 weeks. It's an indefinable impression, which could be wrong.

Can you get closeup photos of the saddle feathers -- with your hand or a piece of paper under them so that the true shape can show despite the shredding?

Thanks. Yeah the Saddle feathers look less pointy than I would expect for a Roo that is 18-20 weeks old.

 

[3KillerBs]

The shredding still makes it hard to be sure, but that does look like they're more likely to lay than to crow.

 

[Painted Calls]

Both are cockerels.

 

[Painted Calls]

Also, welcome to BYC!