Russian Orloff: 12 weeks- Gender help :(

[HungryPenguin]

Hi chicken community,
I'm ready to stop being in denial, the feathers on the tail just keep growing... I'm almost positive this is a cockerel due to the saddle feathers, but there's no comb or red color, it's just pink and flat I love this baby so much, such a personality and makes me happier more than anything else in a long time... I'd hate to have to rehome this wonderful creature. So much goofiness, loyalty, and love from this little crossed beak psycho. ☹
Tell me your thoughts please

Always has a messy face due to Fermented food and then dribbles due to special beak

Listening to me like a dog, just turning his head from left to right I just wanna hug this baby all the time!

 

[NatJ]

there's no comb or red color, it's just pink and flat

Orloffs should have a walnut comb, which in them is basically flat. And the muff/beard make any wattles almost invisible. So not much to go by!

The pale color could be significant, though.

How old is this bird?

 

[HungryPenguin]

Orloffs should have a walnut comb, which in them is basically flat. And the muff/beard make any wattles almost invisible. So not much to go by!

The pale color could be significant, though.

How old is this bird?

Some photos I looked up for a Rooster was a pretty lumpy walnut comb being fire truck red, so that's why I posted
Going on 12 weeks!

 

[NatJ]

Some photos I looked up for a Rooster was a pretty lumpy walnut comb being fire truck red, so that's why I posted
Going on 12 weeks!

The only Orloffs I've seen in person were pullets and a hen, and the comb was quite flat even when she was laying eggs. At 12 weeks, I certainly would expect more color in a cockerel's comb, so you might have a pullet. (Or you might have a slow-maturing cockerel.)

 

[HungryPenguin]

The only Orloffs I've seen in person were pullets and a hen, and the comb was quite flat even when she was laying eggs. At 12 weeks, I certainly would expect more color in a cockerel's comb, so you might have a pullet. (Or you might have a slow-maturing cockerel.)

Aww thanks for the response! What do you think of that tail though!? It's got some long green sheen ones in there, but I've never seen a hen of this breed for reference

 

[The_Patriot5150]

That’s a rooster. The tail and the saddle feathers are a dead give away.

 

[The_Patriot5150]

Can you keep him or does your area not allow roosters?

 

[NatJ]

Aww thanks for the response! What do you think of that tail though!? It's got some long green sheen ones in there, but I've never seen a hen of this breed for reference

I'm not sure. The Orloff hen I had did not have such a long tail or such sheen. But I once had a Dark Cornish hen with LOTS of green sheen. And I've had a Yokohama hen with a really long tail and even some curvy saddle feathers (but no pointy ends on those feathers.)

So unless I see pointy saddle feathers, I don't usually trust myself to judge gender from partly-grown tails

 

[HungryPenguin]

Can you keep him or does your area not allow roosters?

Thank you... I thought that was the give away, but the comb made me a dreamer I cannot keep in my city ordinance, I don't know what to do with this wonder baby now. Advice is appreciated?

 

[HungryPenguin]

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I'm not sure. The Orloff hen I had did not have such a long tail or such sheen. But I once had a Dark Cornish hen with LOTS of green sheen. And I've had a Yokohama hen with a really long tail and even some curvy saddle feathers (but no pointy ends on those feathers.)

So unless I see pointy saddle feathers, I don't usually trust myself to judge gender from partly-grown tails

Okay, that makes things interesting... so some male characteristics can develop on females. Thanks, I'll keep this in mind!