Russian Orloffs

If I can find a good trio of birds, I feel certain I could produce and set solid white birds within 5 years. I'm in the market for such a trio and will proceed to do so with dispatch.

I don't have the training or experience in chicken genetics required for the project but I do have a companion who does have the training and burning desire to help me get this done. It will happen, just a matter of getting the birds I need.

J.


I've done quite a bit of research into this (the genetics interest me) and based on what I've learned the heavy white pattern we see on occasion in the Orloff is called hysterical mottling. While it's possible people will get some solid white birds breeding the hysterical mottles, they will never breed true. IE white x white will produce anything from a normal "spangled" Orloff, to a heavy white bird, to possibly some more solid whites. And if you bring in spangled birds to improve type, size, whatever, you are basically back at square one on color. Every experienced genetics person I have spoken with says if people want to breed solid white Orloffs that consistently breed true, they are going to have to introduce either dominant white or a recessive white genes into their birds. This would consistently produce solid white, breed true, and when spangles are brought in to improve something, you can get back to white in just 1-2 generations depending on if you are working with dominant or recessive white, and if the birds used have 1 or 2 copies of the genes.

Some interesting links
http://www.chickencolours.com/New mottled allele.pdf
http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=113098
http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=88951&page=all
 
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I've done quite a bit of research into this (the genetics interest me) and based on what I've learned the heavy white pattern we see on occasion in the Orloff is called hysterical mottling.  While it's possible people will get some solid white birds breeding the hysterical mottles, they will never breed true.  IE white x white will produce anything from a normal "spangled" Orloff, to a heavy white bird, to possibly some more solid whites.  And if you bring in spangled birds to improve type, size, whatever, you are basically back at square one on color.  Every experienced genetics person  I have spoken with says if people want to breed solid white Orloffs that consistently breed true, they are going to have to introduce either dominant white or a recessive white genes into their birds.  This would consistently produce solid white, breed true, and when spangles are brought in to improve something, you can get back to white in just 1-2 generations depending on if you are working with dominant or recessive white, and if the birds used have 1 or 2 copies of the genes.

Some interesting links
http://www.chickencolours.com/New mottled allele.pdf
http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=113098
http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=88951&page=all


Thanks for the helpful links! Chicken genetics are so interesting.
 
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I've got this beautiful girl! But look at her feet and legs? She's 4minths old. Anyone have experience with this darkness and know if it's common or likely to fade? Also... what color of beak is standard? Thanks!
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My russian orloff pullet. Got from the feed store. She was the only orloff left. So we bought her along with wyandottes and buff orps and then added some pure ameraucanas from a breeder. So she is our only russian orloff. But i love her personality, and her puffy cheeks!
 


My russian orloff pullet. Got from the feed store. She was the only orloff left. So we bought her along with wyandottes and buff orps and then added some pure ameraucanas from a breeder. So she is our only russian orloff. But i love her personality, and her puffy cheeks!

Oh she is a beauty now all ya need is a roo to keep her entertained
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Oh she is a beauty now all ya need is a roo to keep her entertained  :weee

I know! If they were easier to come by i would have gotten one.
I ended up getting a pure white ameraucana cockerel since i have more ameraucana pullets.
I wish they would have had more available that day but im sure glad i at least got one!!
 

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