?'s about cubas

[fowlsessed]

Thanks gallorojo. And lollipop, I think I will start with hatchery stock, maybe from ideal and sandhill and then see if I can get my hands on a good quality bird or two to improve the hatchery birds.

 

[Lollipop]

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Fuzzy thinking, my friend. You will be starting in a hole. Start with the best you can afford and build on that. Merry Christmas.......Pop

 

[gallorojo]

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If you are looking for good Cornish, al6517 on BYC has good ones including white and a couple other colors. If you are looking for Cubalaya information, your best bet is to contact saladin (Doc), also on BYC. Don`t sit around waiting for them to contact you. Just so you know, most breeders, myself included, are against crossbreeding and "creating" stuff. Most of the time the project ends with a discouraged breeder and with a bunch of mutts and the original stock is compromised. In my humble opinion, you should start with the best stock you can find/afford and breed to improve it. Good luck with whatever you end up doing.......Pop

In my humble opinion, you should start with the best stock you can find/afford and breed to improve it. Good luck with whatever you end up doing.......Pop

That I can agree with 100%. Wise, true statement there.


Just so you know, most breeders, myself included, are against crossbreeding and "creating" stuff. Most of the time the project ends with a discouraged breeder and with a bunch of mutts and the original stock is compromised.

Sorry, I can't completely agree with this part. If you mean you are against the random crossing to "see what happens", and the many attempts to create "new breeds", which are definitely not needed, fine. I get that part. If you mean you hate to see people crossing up gamefowl with non'games, or crossing up asils, or any foundational breed, ok, I get that too. Where I disagree is that most breeders are against crossing. Almost every breeder I've ever talked to that has been in this game any length of time crosses things, not aimlessly-with purpose, with a clear goal in mind. Say you have a breed coming to small, and no breeder stock is any better, or, there simply is no good breeder stock around. A cross to the most similar breed you can find would be the way to go in that case. The key is to keep breeding back to the breed you started with for 6 years, minimum, before you call them pure again, and sell any as such. You are correct that most people don't have the patience to carry a project like this on for 6-10 years. Most people who start in this don't have any birds at all 3 years later-it's a lot harder than it seems at first. Crossing should not be done lightly, and probably not by beginners. It is done, though, by good breeders of a wide variety of poultry-the best Cubalaya strain in this country was made that way by crossing to Shamo to improve size. Other very good breeders have done the same thing. Note the cross was done by very good breeders, with a clear purpose, not by beginners, and not just to "see what happens', or to "make new breeds" .

 

[fowlsessed]

OK, I'm going to take yalls wise advise. So back on the search again for somebody with good birds who sells chicks or eggs and ships. Does not look like there's anyone within reasonable driving distance with cubas anywhere near me.

 

[Lollipop]

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You`re right. That`s what I was saying, but not clear enough. I was trying to get out the door for church. I think you have a pretty clear handle on the situation. Definately not a project for a beginner.........Pop

 

[Lollipop]

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Depends on what you accept as reasonable driving distance. Saladin is just a short jump NE of Columbia, SC. If that`s too far, I`l bet he can hook you up with a breeder closer to home........Pop