Salmonella Pullorum update

[Barnyard Dawg]

Oxine appears to be a safe choice.

http://www.cagenbird.com/prod_disinfectants.htm
http://www.1800deadfly.com/oxine.htm

 

[Wes in Tx]

Oxine is also now certified by the Organic Materials Review Institue.

As for the vinegar, you wouldn't use apple cider but white vinegar and not the stuff you get in the store. You would use either 10 or 20 percent which you buy by the gallon and it will work well. It is cheaper than oxine. It is also used as an organic weed killer and it works wonders. I use the 20% mixed 50/50 with water a tablespoon of Dawn and an ounce of orange oil. The vinegar works the same way as the lime by making the ground so acidic that no bacteria or virus can live in it. Be forwarned don't spray it directly on any type galvanized material.

You can only do so much. Also when tilling in the lime I till a 1/4 to 1/2 inch layer into the top 4 inchs of my soil since that is about all the topsoil I have. Below that is limestone. 4-6 inches is plenty.

 

[chicknmania]

OK, Cami (Hannah's best friend) died. She was acting ok for a couple days when the weather got better, then just dissapeared. Next day I found what was left of her in a corner of the barn behind some plywood; not even enough left to do a necropsy. I don't know if something killed her and ate her or found her after she died and ate her, but I'm guessing probably the second scenario; i'm thinking a rat or two... We buried her remains. We have two or three other hens developing symptoms, but who knows of what at this point. We just ordered over $100.00 in disinfectant, turmeric, dewormer, DE, ILT vaccine,and antibiotic. Found we can't rototill the barn floor, due to the high consistency of rocks and gravel, but are going to try and soak it in Oxine. Wish us luck, please. Once again, we need the power of prayer.

 

[Wes in Tx]

You have my prayers. I do so hope the others start to get well soon as you have been through it the last few months.

 

[dlhunicorn]

why not pour a cement floor if finances allow??? Easier to clean and in the case of infectious disease easily disinfected (more so than a soil based as soil will inactivate the disinfectants). I would suggest if you have another death that you send it in for necropsy...you will only be guessing otherwise what your problem is and how to go about treating it.

 

[chicknmania]

Thank you. I just got a very discouraging email from the State vet in response to my inquiry re the acid fast stains. He replied that they are very inaccurate and that the possibility existed that other infected birds would remain in the flock even if we culled the ones that tested positive. He recommended that we cull the entire flock and start over. I just can't do that...from what I read the chances of people contracting this disease are very slight, and also I think that if the risk were more substantial, it would be regulated, wouldn't it? The Acid Fast test and typical symptoms are what they used to diagnose Hannah. This is disturbing, cause if the acid fast test is that inaccurate....oh, well. I put this part in mainly for informational purposes; could go on and on. He did say the disease can be transmitted through the egg on some occasions..apparently he just discovered this..but I don't think this would be a problem anyway if the eggs are not eaten raw? Or maybe he was referring to the developing chick getting it. We put all our chickens on Tmycin til we can get the other stuff...haven't noticed any with symptoms for a day or so. Wes, (or anyone) if you're still reading this, can you clarify the aspirin dose for a lame chicken? How many tablets per gallon of water? I want to try it on our Gimpy hen, just out of curiousity. Does the aspirin conflict with any other meds? I can post another thread on this, if we're getting off topic.

 

[Wes in Tx]

The rate to use on the apsirin is 5-5grain per gallon of water.

Also the vet was talking about the chicks getting the disease. That is the way it is passed from mama to baby.