San Diego Chicken meetup and Chat thread

[ozexpat]

so when is the next meet-up?

I would host it but my Anaheim apartment only holds 6 people and my styrobator.

 

[ozexpat]

Ladies and Gents

Does anyone have or know somebody that has Australorps? They are the first breed on my original egg list to get the flock out of here and I am having a hard time with them. To top it off my BA roo that I hatched in January duked it out with my BCM roo and was dead in the coop 3 hours after the dust settled.

My next trip will be labor day weekend.

I would need to coordinate an egg run August 27 and the eggs would have to be 4 days old max.

I am also looking for a sussex breed LF, and banties of all types

 

[perchie.girl]

Quote: They are about 20 bucks here again cola syrup. If you buy in quantity you can probably get them for less. The deal is to use them for what I want to use them for I NEED that valve at the bottom of the tank to be already integral with the tank. Plus that whole thing of being setup on a pallet. If I needed a second one they are stack-able and the form factor is the most efficient for volume. so the cube is a better storage medium for me.

deb

 

[Czech's_chicks]

Deb, are the cola ones square, also? I like that concept, of course for being able to stack. I'm really trying hard to come up with grey water storage and filter solutions. As soon as the bird yard is re-fenced, I plan on getting my fruit trees in the ground. I'm also going to reclaim the 'used' water from the birds instead of dumping each time to clean and refill.

 

[RHRanch]

They are about 20 bucks here again cola syrup. If you buy in quantity you can probably get them for less. The deal is to use them for what I want to use them for I NEED that valve at the bottom of the tank to be already integral with the tank. Plus that whole thing of being setup on a pallet. If I needed a second one they are stack-able and the form factor is the most efficient for volume. so the cube is a better storage medium for me.

deb

Where do you get the cola ones?

 

[perchie.girl]

Deb, are the cola ones square, also? I like that concept, of course for being able to stack. I'm really trying hard to come up with grey water storage and filter solutions. As soon as the bird yard is re-fenced, I plan on getting my fruit trees in the ground. I'm also going to reclaim the 'used' water from the birds instead of dumping each time to clean and refill.

Quote: All the feed stores carry totes or drums that were originally used to carry food products either syrup or powder. The vendors on Craigs list charge less because they are the source for the feed stores. They also get the ones that have had insecticide, soap, kerosene.... you name it. So when you ask prices ask what was in the container. The big white square ones have a valve at the bottom which has a camlock fitting. I got the companion fitting at a pressure wash repair company, near Gillespie field. that fitting will allow you to attach a hose or pvc through a screw thread. Plus you can remove it for moving the tote.

deb

 

[alisar]

I'm not sure if anyone is interested in olandsk mix chicks but I'll have some straight run starting next month.

 

[CarlyLu]

Can anyone help with a San Diego zoning question? The SD Neighborhood Code Compliance office is telling me that my single-family dwelling in a single-family home neighborhood is NOT permitted chickens because it is zoned to also allow multi-family dwellings ("RM"). Our chicken ordinance reads:

"Keeping or maintaining chickens located on a premises zoned for a single dwelling unit, developed with a single dwelling unit, developed with a community garden in accordance with section 141.0203, or developed with a retail farm in accordance with section 141.0505, is subject to the following requirements....." [chicken rules follow]

A reasonable interpretation of this would be that chickens are allowed if your zoning allows for single dwelling units, not if it is zoned exclusively for single dwelling units. The "RM" zone extends for exactly 1/3 of the way down our block to accomodate a small apartment complex on the corner. Two houses down it goes back to single-family only. But city official says I have to get rid of them. All because a universally despised, obnoxious neighbor complained about something unrelated (which has been dismissed).

Can anyone here advise on what I should do? I have 2 banty hens, and a banty rooster who will be re-homed soon (also thanks to the unrelated complaint -- my 8pm-10am coop is darkened and soundproofed so neighbors didn't even know I had a rooster.) I do not intend to get rid of the hens in any case. But I'm wondering if/how I can make this legal. Request re-zoning? Request an exemption? Request to City Council for revision or clarification of chicken ordinance to clarify intent to prevent keeping chickens by actual multi-family residences, not single-family units that happen to be in a multi-allowed zone? I have no idea how all this works.

Also, looking for home for one gorgeous, Red Cochin bantam rooster who is clicker-trained, friendly, and rarely crows. Stew pots need not apply. I am offering clicker training lessons for anyone interested -- very useful for both show animals and pets, any species (including homo sapiens spouses!!)

 

[CarlyLu]

WOW. I wrote to the office of the city councilperson who initiated and passed the chicken ordinance in San Diego, Todd Gloria. Within 2 hours I had a reply from a Senior Planner at the City. I was right! I can have my chickens!!


Quote:
Below is the email I sent to Councilman Gloria:

From: Raz Rasmussen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:43 PM
To: Councilmember Todd Gloria
Subject: San Diego Backyard Chicken Ordinance

Dear Councilman Gloria,

I was thrilled when San Diego, under your leadership, adopted the ordinance allowing the keeping of backyard chickens. I am writing to inquire about the intention/interpretation of the provision that states:

"Keeping or maintaining chickens located on a premises zoned for a single dwelling unit, developed with a single dwelling unit, developed with a community garden in accordance with section 141.0203, or developed with a retail farm in accordance with section 141.0505, is subject to the following requirements, except that section 42.0709(e) shall not apply to single dwelling units located in agriculture base zones."

I was recently informed by Eric Picou, zoning investigator for the Neighborhood Code Compliance division, that my single-family dwelling is not allowed to keep chickens because it is in an "RM" zone (multi-family units allowed with density restrictions). I live in a Bay Park neighborhood that is primarily single-family homes, with a small section of multi-family units in one small area. My property is at the south edge of the RM zone (2444 Chicago St.) where there is one apartment complex on the north corner of the block.

My reading of the requirements for keeping chickens is that they must be in a zone that allows single-dwelling units, housed according the the rules in the ordinance, not that they must be in a zone that allows only single-dwelling units. However, because the RM zoning extends into the single-family homes (which have been here since the 1950's), the code is being implemented so that I am subject to the restriction intended for multi-family residences. I have a large yard, coop that is in compliance with regulations, and have received no complaints about the chickens.

Is this an oversight in the wording of the ordinance, or is the intent of the regulation that some single-family units, in dominantly single-family neighborhoods, are not permitted backyard chickens? Also, I am curious why this property is zoned "RM" when it is only the corner lot on the block that is multi-family. I would like to pursue any options to remedy the situation.

 

[ozexpat]

WOW. I wrote to the office of the city councilperson who initiated and passed the chicken ordinance in San Diego, Todd Gloria. Within 2 hours I had a reply from a Senior Planner at the City. I was right! I can have my chickens!!



Below is the email I sent to Councilman Gloria:

From: Raz Rasmussen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:43 PM
To: Councilmember Todd Gloria
Subject: San Diego Backyard Chicken Ordinance

Dear Councilman Gloria,

I was thrilled when San Diego, under your leadership, adopted the ordinance allowing the keeping of backyard chickens. I am writing to inquire about the intention/interpretation of the provision that states:

"Keeping or maintaining chickens located on a premises zoned for a single dwelling unit, developed with a single dwelling unit, developed with a community garden in accordance with section 141.0203, or developed with a retail farm in accordance with section 141.0505, is subject to the following requirements, except that section 42.0709(e) shall not apply to single dwelling units located in agriculture base zones."

I was recently informed by Eric Picou, zoning investigator for the Neighborhood Code Compliance division, that my single-family dwelling is not allowed to keep chickens because it is in an "RM" zone (multi-family units allowed with density restrictions). I live in a Bay Park neighborhood that is primarily single-family homes, with a small section of multi-family units in one small area. My property is at the south edge of the RM zone (2444 Chicago St.) where there is one apartment complex on the north corner of the block.

My reading of the requirements for keeping chickens is that they must be in a zone that allows single-dwelling units, housed according the the rules in the ordinance, not that they must be in a zone that allows only single-dwelling units. However, because the RM zoning extends into the single-family homes (which have been here since the 1950's), the code is being implemented so that I am subject to the restriction intended for multi-family residences. I have a large yard, coop that is in compliance with regulations, and have received no complaints about the chickens.

Is this an oversight in the wording of the ordinance, or is the intent of the regulation that some single-family units, in dominantly single-family neighborhoods, are not permitted backyard chickens? Also, I am curious why this property is zoned "RM" when it is only the corner lot on the block that is multi-family. I would like to pursue any options to remedy the situation.

Kudos

I love it when the story goes in favor of common sense - well and chickens of course.