screwed up post where i got no answers

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This link explains CRD better. It DOES say that CRD usually follows other infectious diseases involving breathing. Everywhere I look on the Internet says the same thing. It's caused by numberous infectious bacterium in multiples of different strains working together and usually follows other problems involving disease infections. It also says slow infections. I know not all 70 of my birds infected each other in a matter of days, when this infection takes about 2 weeks to infect a flock of my size. The symptoms I listed also coincide with every other disease on the list of breathing problems. They all have the same symptoms. I live in Texas. I don't know anyone else with this same disease and none of my birds came from flocks that have this problem. I also highly doubt my birds picked it up from a field mouse......

Yall say that my birds will not show symptoms until they are stressed. My birds did not get stressed by the cold. They didn't get sick until the weather changed here, and I used the word "cold" as a descriptive measure. I live in Texas......we don't get that cold here. My birds have heaters in the coop. NOT a dinky 250watt heat lamp....I have 1500 watt infrared heaters spread out every 12 feet. I doubt they got stressed from the weather change. Nothing really changed for them. The heaters automatically turn on with a thermostat. They never run out of water. They are automatically watered via a water heater. They don't run out of feed either. They are also automatically fead as much as they want with an automatic dispenser. I spoil the crap out of those birds, so they keep producing hatchable eggs for me. Their water pipe even has a heat wire taped to it to come on at a certain temperature to keep the water warmer.

I also doubt some simple tetracycline powder just somehow automatically cured them of their coughing and sneezing. Most of the birds getting sick came from NPIP certified flocks that had already vaccinated for this very problem. Yall, automatically doomed my whole flock for a disease based on common symptoms that are on every disease list. I need to fully understand how CRD was the conclusion that was formed for me to understand? What is it that I said, when looking for advice that gave CRD as the conclusion?
Other sites say VetRX is a treatment for CRD symptoms, and I used it on this very bird I am seeking advice on, as well as Tylan 50. Neither helped..............This bird is swelling by the minute and none of my other birds went through this much sickness. Nothing is helping this bird.
 
No one has doomed your flock. I stated that you would need to get a sick bird tested to be sure of what you were dealing with. It does sound more like IB if all of you birds got it at the same time, but sometimes it is possible to have more than one disease at the same time. Maybe your sick girl has something else going on. Get her tested--even a local vet could probably help with that.
 
Exactly, get them tested, find out what your working with and go from there as each are handled in different ways. In every post I have written here I have advised to get them tested as chickens do not get colds. To not get them tested and then sell hatching eggs from them would risk passing along something to others. Good luck
 
Thank you all for your help. I don't have a local vet here that deals with chickens. So, I will have to call the state health people and get them to test my birds for me. I live in the surrounding Waco, Texas area. You would think we would have a vet here. But we don't.
 
Exactly, get them tested, find out what your working with and go from there as each are handled in different ways. In every post I have written here I have advised to get them tested as chickens do not get colds. To not get them tested and then sell hatching eggs from them would risk passing along something to others. Good luck
X 2. We are only trying to help people by helping them diagnose what is wrong with their chickens. You don't have to test them all--just 1 or 2 sick ones. Sorry if we upset you. Good luck.
 
You could have blood drawn and a nasal swab done and have them both tested.

-Kathy
 
Thank you all for your help. I don't have a local vet here that deals with chickens. So, I will have to call the state health people and get them to test my birds for me. I live in the surrounding Waco, Texas area. You would think we would have a vet here. But we don't.
Call the lab listed in the link (http://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_health/nahln/downloads/all_nahln_lab_list.pdf) that I provided in a previous post, ask to speak with an avian pathologist and they should be able to help you come up with a plan.

-Kathy
 
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I don't have any birds that appear sick this morning. The birds ate up almost two 50lb bags of feed last night. The bird I was worried about I had in the house. She died about an hour ago. Thanks for everyones help. I will call someone on that list you gave me.
 
Sorry for your loss. This is a copy and paste from a post of mine:

How to Send a Bird for a Necropsy​

They need the whole bird, refrigerated, not frozen. If you live in CA, there are four labs that do necropsies on poultry (chickens, turkeys, waterfowl) for free. I know that they do out of state necropsies, but I think they charge for those. You could call them and ask what they charge for out of state "backyard poultry". The lab I use is the one in Tulare, CA. If you are in CA, call them and ask for their FedEx account number, it will save a bunch on shipping charges.

CAHFS
18830 Road 112
Tulare, CA 93274-9042
(559) 688-7543
(559) 686-4231 (FAX)
[email protected]


The other labs are listed here:
http://www.cahfs.ucdavis.edu/services/lab_locations.cfm

If it's Friday, unless you want to overnight for Saturday delivery, I would suggest shipping on Monday for Tuesday delivery. What you need to do, if you haven't already done so, is put your bird in your refrigerator, NOT the freezer! Then you need to find a box, line it with styrofoam (I use the 4'x8'x1" stuff from Home Depot. You can also get smaller pieces at an art store like Michael's, but is way more expensive. Click here to see foam options. You'll also need at least one ice pack. Here are some pictures that I took of the last bird that I sent:

Box lined with foam on four sides and bottom. Seams of foam taped sealed.


Box, sides, bottom and and top.


Frozen ice pack in ziplock baggie.


Brown paper on top of ice pack.


Hen in ziplock baggie on top of brown paper.


Brown paper on top of hen.


Ice pack on top of brown paper.


Lid on top of brown paper.

Inside the box you should also include a submission form in a ziplock baggie. Do not tell anyone at FedEx that you're shipping a dead animal... that seems to really worry them. Just make sure that nothing will leak.

Hope this helps!

-Kathy
 
I live in Texas, I am not from California. I researched necropsies today and eventually cut the bird open. I'm not sure what I was suppose to find, if my bird had CRD. I found nothing that looked weird. Everything was so straightforward and had color. None of the body parts had spots or lesions or blood or fat deposits. The bird was as clean as a whistle. What should I have found if the bird had CRD? The trachea was clean, the bird had no food in her crop. She was dehydrated. The only thing I found was water in one of her air sacs....atleast I think it was an air sac. And when she died, her face was swollen below both eyes, which was creamy and full of water. Anybody have any input on this?
 
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